EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

At 07:23 PM 1/28/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Here, here! I've always been disappointed with MIDI volume automation.
Glad there's someone out there!
I'm actually not talking about midi volume. In fact, what I'm after is a 
way to control amplitude that is NOT midi volume. Midi volume is for 
setting the level of an instrument in a mix, not for expressive modulation 
of amplitude as in, for example, a string section playing with a loud 
attack, quickly decrescendoing, then slowly increasing back to the original 
level. After I've recorded this "performance" I then would like the option 
of changing the level of this instrument in the mix, using midi volume.

>  Does
>HALion do what you are requesting? If not all, which elements does it do
>well, that you discussed?
It seems to me that Halion is set up for this. On the modulation page, "Amp 
amount" is listed as one of the destination parameters.

All I'm talking about is the equivalent of "expression", cc #11, in the 
general midi spec. It's not a useless parameter, in fact, it's the most 
important parameter for musical expression! Much more musically basic than 
controlling filter cutoff, which everyone seems to fall all over themselves 
to offer.
Am I the only one who cares about this?

Also, from reading the manual, Halion seems very well set up to have 
multiple keymaps per program, accessible in many sophisticated ways, 
including gigasampler's midi note method.
This strikes me as essential for dealing with the massive number of choices 
available these days for samples. Violins, for example. There are many 
different articulations possible, and the more I can have at my fingertips, 
the better I'm going to sound, and the easier it's going to be to make the 
music. Having to have a different instance of the sampler for each sound is 
just too clunky.

If these features aren't forthcoming in exs24, I want to know as soon as 
possible, so I can get on with deciding on other platforms. I sure don't 
want to build an entire PC just to get these features....

When will we get more detail on the new features in v.5 ?

> > From: Darcy Phillips <darclist@...>
> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:26:41 -0700
> > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [exs] new exs with \logic 5?
> >
> >
> >>>
> >> I have been told by french support that exs will do streaming too with 
> logic
> >> audio 5.
> >
> >
> > I'm glad to hear that. Streaming is certainly a big step in the right
> > direction. But it's not only about streaming for me, there are also some
> > other very important things. Being able to read the giga library, which
> > means also the ability to build patches with switchable layers for
> > different articulations.
> >
> > But oddly enough, the biggest one for me is the simplest: I need to be able
> > to control the amplitude of the sound without using midi volume!  Without
> > this the software is essentially useless for me, and anyone else wanting to
> > do any sort of detailed orchestral simulations.
> >
> > Darcy
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