EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi Soren,

> I think you should take Eric's post not as an accusation to us
> but as a warning that the one among us who share stuff may get into
> trouble.

Ok, which thing is then which *may* get me into trouble?
A) Admitting that I download samples from the internet? Will the police come
to my home because I might have downloaded some stuff which wasn't copyright
free? Aww...
B) Or admitting that the loop I posted was from the internet? Which then
could mean that I was eventually supplying copyrighted stuff illegaly?
C) Or is it the fact that this congaloop sounds like one you could very well
find on some sample CDs too?

So...

A) would just be pointless because then someone would have to shut down all
public sample sites instantly or at least check all the samples you can find
there - I mean, you never know...
B) I could actually understand this a bit. But then, would it make things
any better if I remembered the download link and would post that in some
sort of disclaimer? If so, I will remember that for the future. I doubt I
would post anything like that again though, it's just too much trouble to
remember the download link for all the things...
C) If that was the case, uhm! I have a bunch of things that I am "offcially"
allowed to use in any context I like, be it using it for my own music or
giving it further to friends. These samples sound pretty much the same as
stuff you can find on somewhat wellknown sample CDs because it was actually
made by the same people. I have quite some loops on a CD I got from Mousse T
personally (he did the "Jambox" and "Overdub Sensation"  CDs, most likely a
few more as well). As said, I even asked him if it was material that I could
give further. I also have some loops I personally recorded with a good
friend of mine, he's the drummer on \ufffdberschall's "Drumskills" (btw, don't
get that CD, it's not well sorted at all). Some of the loops I have recorded
with him just sound pretty much similar as on the mentioned CD (only that I
sorted them way better ;-). I don't want to run into problems just because
my own stuff sounds sonically similar to samples that you can find on
popular sample CDs.

> So let's continue sharing what we feel safe about, right? Take the
> Akai samples as an example. They are put up by Akai on their
> official, free, ftp site, right? I feel safe using and sharing them.
> Plus the stuff I do myself, I feel safe about that.

I must say that for the above mentioned possibilities I don't feel safe any
longer.
OK, I could say that everything I posted was sampled by my own, but it would
be somewhat strange to assume that this would be all that was required to be
safe. Plus it's not what I would think "acting responsible" means.

Anyways, as I'm planning to start doing my own drum sample CD next month, I
also DO care about things such as copyrights. I really don't want to find my
samples and patches spread all over the net either as we (the involved
drummer and me) plan to make a somewhat serious thing out of that.
And fwiw, as I'm testing software for some companies I also know what being
concerned about copyrights and their infringements means for them and I'd be
the last person to say "well, get it for *free* on the internet".
Btw, we still don't have any about a distributor. In short, it will be a
(mostly natural) drumloop CD, but it will use a somewhat new-ish concept as
it a) deliver some sort of "construction" sets, b) will be a "mixed" CD as
it will use both MIDI and audio patterns and c) will be a "Logic'ed and
EXS'ed" CD.

Apart from all this, I took that congaloop away from my site. Same with the
TTI (EWS card) patches I converted. Same with the pads I recently posted
(they were converted and edited soundfonts from one of the most evil sites
on the web, http://www.hammersound.net/ that is, better don't visit...).
Everybody allready having them should think about erasing them too... as
said, you never know.

Regards,
Sascha