EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

At 11:44 AM 2/11/02 +0000, you wrote:

> > And then, another thing: Recently there was this thread about
> > the (public) AKAI sample FTP and about people converting patches and then
> > posting only the EXS files. If you think about it, there's a problem with
> > that as well.
> > Am I allowed to use a patch that was converted using a
> > program that I don't own by myself?
>Corrct me if I am wrong but I am thinking that as I am the one doing the
>conversion I own the copyright on the .exs files themselves.
>The original wav files retain the original copyright of the owner.. ie
>akai?
>Is this corrct?

Technically, not really. (But I think what you are doing is OK {on the 
ethical front, not necessarily the legal front), since the samples are 
available for public access.)

We take it really seriously at Chicken Systems that Translator isn't used 
for pirating purposes. It's perfectly OK to back your own stuff, and to 
translate it over to another format for your own use, but if you pass it 
on, it's exactly the same as passing on the original. So that's not OK.

We get people calling that say something like this: "I got a couple CD's 
from my friend and I'm translating them..." or " went over to my friends 
house and I converted my CD's and..."

The first instance is infringement on the sounds copyright; the second is 
an infringement on the convertors copyright. Both are no-no's. In both 
instances I insist that they comply with the rules before I help them any 
further.

A personal note: recently I've been working with several sample developers. 
They work their BUTTS off. They deserve the compensation they ask for, and 
are protected by the law (which in America, "we the people" make those 
laws, no matter what you think). When, in the same day, I get one of the 
above calls, I get really, really angry. Just because it's not as 
perceptible that sounds are a tangible good, it doesn't mean that they can 
be passed around without regard to cost.

>What about giga files that pack the sample info and wave data into the
>one file? Is this a copyright infringement?

No, this is different. It doesn't matter how the files are arranged; either 
one file or multiple ones. The same applies.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User