EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Bj\ufffdrn returns tennis ball back to Teddy ;-)

> "Bjorn Elfstrom" <bjorn@...> very eloquently wrote:
>
> > Seems to me that you ("HELP" & Teddy, primarily) are speaking about
apples
> > and oranges. AFAI understood Teddy was speaking about lifting samples
(vs.
> > re-recording them) from published records.

[to which Teddy replied:]
> I was talking about any sample you take from a record or a sample CD or
> anything basically. lifting to me means taking it from a record.

OK, sorry, then I misunderstood you. *I*was specifically referring to
lifting, i.e. sampling off a "normal" record.

[Bj\ufffdrn's original claim:]
> > 'HELP' was OTOH speaking about samples specifically made for using in
> > compositional work. And here, again AFAI understand, you cross IP
> > infringement line the minute you copy, store, or use the stuff (that you
> > have not bought the right to use), even it it'd be just for "personal"
use.

[to which Teddy replied a bit too quickly ;-)]
> what do you mean? I'm not allowed to copy my leagally bought "distorted
> reality" CD (which is pretty cool by the way, Mr. Persing) to my hard
drive
> for use within my EXS? how unreasonable! I doubt that's illegal. if it is,
I
> am very surprised as the samples would not work very well in the EXS if
they
> lived on the CD only. very unpractical.

[and to which Bj\ufffdrn makes a small but important correction:]
sorry Teddy, I was writing this unclearly; here you missed the contents of
one small parenthesis in my reasoning above, namely "(that you have not
bought the right to use)". In other words, I meant a situation where a
person does *anything* with a sample CD that he/she didn't buy or purchase
usage rights in any other way to. I didn't certainly mean that you wouldn't
be allowed to back-up stuff that you've actually bought ;-).

[Teddy concluded that:]
> I don't think they're different, but maybe you could clarify...

do you now see what I mean, or am I still being unclear ;-)?

rgds,

Bj\ufffdrn Elfstr\ufffdm