EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

"Bjorn Elfstrom" <bjorn@...> very eloquently wrote:

> Björn returns tennis ball back to Teddy ;-)
>> 
>>> Seems to me that you ("HELP" & Teddy, primarily) are speaking about apples
>>> and oranges. AFAI understood Teddy was speaking about lifting samples (vs.
>>> re-recording them) from published records.
>>> 
> [to which Teddy replied:] I was talking about any sample you take from a
> record or a sample CD or anything basically. lifting to me means taking it
> from a record.
> 
> OK, sorry, then I misunderstood you. *I*was specifically referring to lifting,
> i.e. sampling off a "normal" record.

ok good we're talking about the same thing... just something you don't own
the rights to basically.

> 
> [Björn's original claim:] 'HELP' was OTOH speaking about samples specifically
> made for using in compositional work. And here, again AFAI understand, you
> cross IP infringement line the minute you copy, store, or use the stuff (that
> you have not bought the right to use), even it it'd be just for "personal"
> use.
> 
> [to which Teddy replied a bit too quickly ;-)] what do you mean? I'm not
> allowed to copy my leagally bought "distorted reality" CD (which is pretty
> cool by the way, Mr. Persing) to my hard drive for use within my EXS? how
> unreasonable! I doubt that's illegal. if it is, I am very surprised as the
> samples would not work very well in the EXS if they lived on the CD only. very
> unpractical.
> 
> [and to which Björn makes a small but important correction:] sorry Teddy, I
> was writing this unclearly; here you missed the contents of one small
> parenthesis in my reasoning above, namely "(that you have not bought the right
> to use)". In other words, I meant a situation where a person does *anything*
> with a sample CD that he/she didn't buy or purchase usage rights in any other
> way to. I didn't certainly mean that you wouldn't be allowed to back-up stuff
> that you've actually bought ;-).

yes... aha... you are right that would be stealing, I missed the
parentheses. Sorry I'm too quick...

Teddy K

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