EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

At 12:51 AM 3/4/02 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In exs-users@y..., "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@s...> wrote:
> > mikaeladle wrote:
> > > Off course you can, but you cannot convert SD2 "mac" files with
> > > Soundforge. As I wrote, SF only convert SD2 "pc" files.
> >
> > Sorry, but I really don't understand that.
> > I have been using SF to convert files recorded in some ProTools
>session
>
>Strange. Are you shore they was Sample Cell 2 and not Sample Cell 1?

SampleCell can be funny. Real funny. SC is mostly a Mac platform, but there 
were PC variants (the "endian" stuff Sascha alluded to). We're talking 
about SoundForge - PC, working with SampleCell, right? That's what SF meant?

SampleCell I on a Mac (I think that's all that worked with) stored it's 
info on the resource fork, and nothing was written in the data fork. It was 
a "resource file" of sorts. So it's impossible to literally put a SC1 file 
on a PC, unless there became a way and I don't know about it.

SampleCell II only uses the data fork, like most other files, so that's OK.

But that's only half the story - what about the samples? SampleCell has the 
ability to use many sample formats and use them concurrently. Some samples 
can be AIFF, some SoundDesigner1, some SoundDesigner2, some Mac Sound 
Files, etc. Even .wav files.

SoundDesigner 1 used the datafork only (thank you), whereas SD2 used the 
resource fork for the parameters and the data fork for the straight 
wavedata. AIFF uses just the data fork; same with the others.

The reason I bring up the forks is that the PC only sees the data fork when 
you save a Mac file to PC disk and you see the the disk in a PC - or even 
using TransMac or similar program. Then is an existence a "flattened" 
SampleCell file - whatever that means. However, a format doesn't mean squat 
unless something reads it.

So, if a SampleCell file combination is nice enough to use data forks only, 
you'll be successful. Not so if any resource forks are used, is my guess.

Translator can solve this issue by transferring the SampleCell file 
combination from a Mac HFS disk/CD to the PC, where it is written as 
Big-Endian (Mac way) and using only AIFF files (any other formats are 
converted on the fly). Then you can use SoundForge to transfer it, or just 
use Translator to do it - or just use the SampleCell->EXS translation.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User