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Re: [exs] [OT]EXS, plug-ins and CPU consumption

2002-05-15 by Raphaƫl TIDAS

Thank you very much for this answer, that gives me an accurate idea of
performances...
:-)

Raphael





> I don't know - to me it seems that for truly complexed stuff it's still good
> to have some hardware (or TDM for that matter) FX around, especially when it
> comes to reverbs and compressors.
> Right now I am using an Athlon 1gHz and while it's almost sufficient for
> complete native mixes when dealing with audio only, I manage to max it out
> easily when using VSTis (especially things such as the ES2). And of course
> there's still no high quality native reverb for some tasks.
> Personally I am thinking about either getting one of those DSP cards
> (Powercore or UAD-1) or a new external unit for reverbs only. I seem to get
> some reasonable results for small rooms and ambiences out of TrueVerb, RVerb
> and FreeVerb2, but as soon as I want some more prominent reverb I wouldn't
> know what to use but an external unit.
> 
> Anyways, here's some (rough) performance figures based on my system:
> - 180 EXS voices without filter.
> - 90 voices with filter.
> - 250+ B4 voices (yeah, that thing is damn efficient)
> - 27 audiotracks, 12 Fat EQs, 2 RenEQ 4band, 2 RenEQ 2band, 3 RenVox, 3
> Compressors, 1 Endorphin (MB compressor), 2 RenVerbs, 1 StereoDelay, 1
> TapeDelay, around 5-6 B4 voices, around 5-6 EVP88 voices, around 10
> (unfiltered) EXS voices. That's what I used for a recent mix and Logic was
> behaving pretty well. Of course all those weren't allways playing at one
> time.
> 
> An even more rough figure from a friends system I recently worked with (an
> Athlon 2000+):
> - 350+ EXS voices without filter.
> - around 220 EXS voices with filter (very rough estimation, had no time to
> check more properly).
> -  40+ audiotracks (loads of choire tracks and vocal snipplets), Fat or
> Ren2band EQ on at least half of them, at least 10 RenVox, at least 10
> compressors, *some* RenComps,  lots of delays (stereo and tape, at least
> 4-5), 3-4 RenVerbs, some Endorphins, at least 50 EXS voices (don't remember
> which were filtered and which weren't), one ES2 (playing like around 2-3
> voices of a 3 OSC, 2 filter patch), some EVP voices (a basic chord track)
> and some other things (Ensemble, Phaser, Tremolo etc.) I don't exactly
> remember... as said, that's just a very rough estimation, but it all went
> fine and we didn't have to even think about inbetween bounces a single time,
> actually we haven't even been watching the CPU meter, we were just working.
> Oh well, that was all in 16bit.
> 
> My impression is that right now it should allready be possible to run a full
> 16bit mix natively in case you don't do 100% native synth stuff and in case
> you have (or don't need) a better solution for compressors and reverbs.
> I would say that in 1-3 years from now (of course you never know what sort
> of performance boost those new 64bit CPUs and OS's will bring) you won't
> need that much external stuff any longer - assuming that sound quality of
> both VSTis and FX is increasing as well, but we're allready seeing that with
> things such as Absynth, FM7 and the ES2. And of course assuming there's
> further instruments finally coping up with Virusses, Nordleads and the likes
> (if you need those at all, that is).
> 
> Regards,
> Sascha

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