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Re: [exs] Copyright and I.P. position on retuned samples - ideas please

2002-06-11 by PersingEP@aol.com

Your right Jer....it wouldn't hold up as a sound recording copyright, or a 
publishing copyright. I was speculating that there might be another kind of 
copyright or patent that would cover something unique like a special tuning 
method or system, but it would be a long shot most likely.

Still, I've seen stranger things get passed in Washington. There's something 
called a "Soundmark", which is rarely used, but pretty weird. A Soundmark is 
kind of like the strange legal offspring of a sound recording copyright and a 
trademark It's what is normally used to protect an audio logo (like the NBC 
chimes for example)...however, in recent years, Roland has used Soundmarks to 
protect the actual sounds of an 808 and Harley Davidson used soundmarks to 
"patent" the actual revving sound of their engines. It's definitely the most 
bizarre form of legal protection for sounds I've ever heard of. It doesn't 
make a lot of common sense, but it is real and has been proven in court. 
Harley Davidson took another motorcycle company to court, suing them for 
"Soundmark infringement" because the company's engines sounded too similar to 
Harleys. AND HARLEY WON!! Amazing.....

But back to the topic....yes I was just warning about posting the audio files 
without permission, as this is clearly illegal.

Best,

EP

In a message dated 6/10/02 10:13:22 PM, HELP@... writes:

>> Posting tunings of your own recordings or someone else's?
>> 
>> Your recordings no problem....someone else's recordings...definitely
>a
>> problem.
>> 
>> Copyrighting your own tunings? Mmmmm....Might be tricky.... but I'm sure
>it's
>> possible...just not as a sound recording.
>
>I disagree with this EP. I've never heard it possible to copyright a
>"tuning." That's like copyrighting a chord progression. It's not allowed.
>Anyone can use a chord progression or foreign tuning system. It's a defined
>melody that can be protected.
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