EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

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From: "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@...>


> If you know me, you will also know that I am one of the most loyal Logic
> supporters.
> But shelling out around 2500 Euros (and that would be the LEAST amount ot
> money) for a Mac, just to own a machine that still is slower than what I
> would get from upgrading my current machine (which would cost me 500 Euros
> max.), is ridiculous.
>
> I never had too much stability problems apart from the times where I was
> testing a new beta or some new VST plugin either.
> Call me a poor dude, OK, I am. I simply can't afford any Mac that would
> deliver even the same performance that I am getting with my current
machine
> (an Athlon 1GHz).
> Yes, it's that easy for me. I just can't afford it, period. Maybe I could
if
> it was for Logic only, but there's a whole bunch of apps I use regularly
> that don't even exist on Macs. So I'd have to get at least some
replacements
> (if there are any).
>
> And that's just it.
> Simple and sad - but still true. I will continue using what I have for a
> while (maybe even for a long while), but Cubase SX sure looks more
tempting
> than any Mac at the moment. At least in the long run.
>
> Regards,
> Sascha

This is sad. Sascha has been one of the best promoters and tutors on the LUG
for Emagic Logic since I have been a Logic user for over the last 2 1/2
years giving a great deal of his time for the cause. I have learned a great
deal thanks to his efforts...

I am also a Windows Logic user who has spent well over $2500US mostly in the
last few months on LAWP 5.0, a LC, and as well on most of the 'instrument
add-ons' that are unfortunately embedded within LAxx and cannot be used with
any other sequencer as say a VST instrument can. Unfortunately also the FX
that come with Logic are not usable with other sequencers due to their
binding within Logic. This investment that I just made would not have been
done if I knew that I would not be able to keep up with future updates to
stay current. Just think of all the enhancements that have been added to
Logic over the last year. Logic 5.0 will become obsolete very quickly when
Logic 6.0 is launched sometime is the near future.

As Windows users, now we are told we now must give large additional monies
to the company who just made this transistion possible if we want to
continue on. I feel like we are being held hostage by Apple. No problem with
your computers, Mac users. Lets not get started again with how Apple stacks
up against the PC. I understand that Apple has a very good computer and has
great software. And thanks to Emagic for making great software products.

The main overall subject on the LUG for us Window's users over the last few
days somehow changed from stating our displeasure in this matter to 'come on
in, the water's fine' from several of the Apple users here. I state this
here on the ESX list since apparently much of our free speech is being
sensored on the LUG by the moderators due to overwhelming talk of the pluses
and minuses over these two operating systems. This is not reflecting in
anyway the great work that these moderators on the LUG have been doing and
continue to perform. They are highly respected for putting up with all the
recent additional bandwidth.

The main beef here for me is Apple stating 'Ha, give us a great deal of more
money if you want to use Logic in the future'. We Windows users have sent
(to effectively now Apple) the same amount of money for continued support as
the MAC users for 5.0 but are all of a sudden we are being singled out to
send additional money all over again.

I know that they are offering the free software upgrades. But somehow new
hardware investments for the Windows users is needed for the software to be
usable...


Danny