EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi Sascha...thanks for doing the test. I have a feeling that maybe they 
swapped the EXS Lowpass for The ES-2 Multi-mode filter, which is probably a 
dfferent algorithm. Totally guessing here though folks....have to ask Clemens 
for the straight scoop. I'm a big fan of the Low pass sound of the original 
EXS, and so one of the first things I check in a major upgrade like this, is 
if some of the things that I loved about the original are still there...or if 
they got "improved" which some times means "not as good".

I have a studio full of gear that the original version sounds better than the 
update (Panasonic SV-3700 vs 3800, Old Yamaha NS-10s vs new NS-10s...etc, etc)

I tend to believe in the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" rule of thumb. Hope 
I'm wrong though...but it sounds like from your test that maybe I'm not crazy.

Best,

EP
In a message dated 11/21/02 11:57:04 PM, saschafranck@... writes:

>PersingEP@... wrote
>> The Lowpass filters sound different to me.....I wonder are they the same?
>The
>> EXS MkI sounds fatter to me....just my first impression, maybe I'm nuts.
>The
>> HP and BP filters are a great addition, wish the FAT function worked
>> though...only seems to have an effect on 24db Low Pass. On the ES2 the
>Fat
>> function seemed to work on all the filters.
>
>You are right, I did a test (bouncing, importing, inverting and crossplaying
>the same songfile in 5.0 and 5.5) and the filters aren't identical. Seems
>as
>if the MK I filter is resonating a bit more.
>Unlike you, I ain't no Mr. Golden Ears (I am serious about that), so
>eventually I might not even have noticed this, but in an A/B comparison
>of
>the files the differences just became pretty much apparent, even without
>the
>phase cancellation test.
>
>I also agree with you that the ease of editing the most important parameters
>is gone now - not because of the simple lack of proper sliders (as Ben
>said,
>it's all there once you recall the EXS Mk I settings) but because of the
>tiny-ness of the new modulation sliders.
>IMO It'd be nice if one could switch between "classic" and "MK II" GUI
>modes.
>
>Regards,
>Sascha
>
>
>
>
>>
>> So overall....more Powerful Great.....not as easy to use...not Great.
>>
>> my 2 cents.
>>
>> EP
>>
>> I suppose that's the price of flexibility