EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

on 17/8/00 2:05 AM, Henrik Klagges at tmp@... wrote:

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> Hello,
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> for the record, I thought that Emagic have nowhere announced that
> they actually do S3000 conversion already. So it's no surprise that
> your conversion doesn't work.
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> I think they only advertised S1000 conversion.
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> Cheers,
> Henrik
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <pbuckle@...>
> To: <exs-users@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:44 PM
> Subject: [exs] Re: Sampler newbie with 3rd party questions
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>> --- In exs-users@egroups.com, Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@d...>
>> wrote:
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>>> For starters, I think I'll limit myself to percussion oriented
>> stuff...I'll
>>> deal with other acoustic instruments afterwards. Particularly, I
>> was
>>> intrigued by the 'groove control' percussion examples in the
>> promo that ilio
>>> included. From what you hear of the 'retro funk' and/or the
>> 'liquid grooves'
>>> stuff, they seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for,
>> but I was
>>> hoping to find some more examples or at least an index of
>> them before I put
>>> down any coin for them. I may have missed it, but didn't find
>> much
>>> additional info at www.ilio.com. Do any of you have any
>> comments/experience
>>> with these products? Any other suggestions that you consider
>> worth me
>>> looking at? 
>>> 
>> Ineresting that you should mention Groove Control and
>> RetroFunk because I own just about every Spectrasonic disc
>> there is.
>> Eric Persing is so amazing and those products are worth every
>> cent.
>> So here's the scoop for you EXS24 owners........I'm not one yet
>> but I've just spent two days with a friend who made the purchase
>> and I can convey to you that.............it don't work!!!
>> There are two main problems with the EXS24...this is my
>> contention so please tell me I'm wrong.
>> The first and biggest is that the Akai conversion does not work
>> properly.
>> 1. About a third of the instruments or programs don't show up in
>> the EXS24 Akai conversion window. They do show up in
>> Osmosis and Interpreter...these are two Akai conversion
>> prog.........they only convert to Sample Cell though.
>> 2 Of the instruments that do show up only some can be
>> translated. The others simply won't convert.
>> With the Akai S3000 Danny Jaeger violin library disk not even a
>> third of the prog could be translated.
>> Converting an entire Partition containing 20 instruments resulted
>> in just 2 instruments being converted. You can't even individually
>> select the other instruments and convert......nothing happens.
>> The other main problem....and this only occured with
>> RetroGrooves.......is that of the samples that do convert. all have
>> an almighty click at the start of them. So your sequence sounds
>> like type writers.
>> Ahhhh!!!  you say just shorten the "Start Fixed" amount and all will
>> be well............no it won't . You lose the dynamic attack of the
>> instrument....because the click will disappear from some
>> samples and not others so by the time you've shortened the start
>> time you've ruined half the samples. The work around is to
>> individually shorten every sample in the editor.
>> With Retro Grooves there are sometimes over 100 samples in
>> one prog!! Forget it.
>> As someone with a large investment in Akai and SampleCell CD
>> roms I am going to wait untill Emagic get this right before I
>> purchase.
>> If you can't translate the vast library available then why make the
>> investment?
>> Oh by the way Akai S1000 disks translated ok.........but they
>> sound so awful these days.....who could be bothered.
>> So I am really saying that the S3000 conversion doesn't work yet.
>> Why advertise that it does?
>> Phil Buckle.
>> 
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> Henrik Klagges
> Corporate Strategy
> ConSol Software GmbH
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Check out there Web page it's stated quite clearly that they support S3000.
The success of EXS24 will depend on how well it converts current libraries.
No one wants to start collecting all over again just for a new format.
The potential of EXS24 is enormous because of its load time and coherent
editor. At the moment it's like a Ferrari without any petrol.
I'm sure they will fix it in time. I just got a bit overexcited when they
said they supported Akai S3000 and believed them.
Is there a bug report address?
Phil Buckle.