EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

> Hallo all, 
> I am currently shopping for audio I/O hardware for a Mac G-3 B&W 350, ext.
> Maxtor 40 Gig Firewire HD Logic 4.7 Platinum system. This system will be
> upgraded to dual G4/Logic 5/6-EXS24, Atmosphere, UAD-1, OSX system, later in
> the year. 
> I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was
> wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
> latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on present G3 and
> future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.
> I cannot seem to get many comments on this subject on the Logic list so am
> hoping this is the correct place to ask. If appropriate please email me
> privately.
> 
> Thank You,
> Vincent

hi vincent.

i got both 828 and multiface.
the 828 has poor converters (imho) and adds some buzzing to the signal if
trying to use the mic preams, well the rme has none so ...

the rme has no soundmanager driver for mac os 9. this sucks!
the 828 has very complete driver support under os 9 including a control
strip that makes things easy to set.

the rme got its "total mix" software letting you route signals from ins to
outs withous any cpu usage. i found this quite handy on tour. only having to
connect the rme and running the 828 thru the rme. so i'd only have to pass 8
channels to the local pa.

the rme is very fagile. i lost quite a few pcmcia card connectors on tour,
and it took rme 2 month one time to deliver a new connector! but you are
going for the pci card, so this will not be much of an issue.

the rme has wordclock in, the 828 doesn't. the 828 got adatsync in, but the
only syncronizer i could find (besides an adat system) was a motu timepiece
and that is expensive. i am missing wordclock in on the 828. its very
important to me and a big missing on the 828.

the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
alive but, still this sucks.

the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
be coming from that adapter.

the rme has no analog in-out-indicators on the front panal. i miss that, and
its a plus for the 828.

i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. as a matter
of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
preamp.

bottom line for me:
rme does everything it says on the box. and it does it well. i love that.

828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.

hope this is of any help,
cheers,
ulf.

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