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RE: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer

I'd say go for creamware!..

I was going for the RME hammerfall initially but discovered that the
creamware solution affords same quality in sound PLUS lots of DSP-power..

I have 16 in/out & 15 DSP on my system.. *great* sound-quality imho..

// kim
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Subject: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)


Hallo all,
I am currently shopping for audio I/O hardware for a Mac G-3 B&W 350, ext.
Maxtor 40 Gig Firewire HD Logic 4.7 Platinum system. This system will be
upgraded to dual G4/Logic 5/6-EXS24, Atmosphere, UAD-1, OSX system, later in
the year.
I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was
wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on present G3 and
future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.
I cannot seem to get many comments on this subject on the Logic list so am
hoping this is the correct place to ask. If appropriate please email me
privately.

Thank You,
Vincent





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Re: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by HKC

Vincent wrote: I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance. 

I have the Hammerfall and it just seems like there´s nothing bad to be said about that card. The lowest possible (at the moment) latency, 1.5 ms,  incredibly stable, and no jitter whatsoever. Sound quality relies heavily on the converters so that´s not up to the Hammerfall. I know some cards have dsp onboard but if you check benchmark tests you will see that on many occasions the Hammerfall outperforms them anyway, probably due to their great working drivers. I´ve had mine for 3 years and it´s still in a class where very few, if any, can compete. You should probably be aware that a new one is on the way, it´s basically the same but it includes midi so it might be worth waiting for.
Henrik Krogh
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Re: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by Michael Gerdau

Hi Vincent !

>I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was
>wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
>latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on present G3 and
>future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.

Initially I owned a RME DIGI96/8. Never had a problem with that card.
*Extremely* low latency (6ms at a time when 100ms was considered good).

After switching to a notebook I got the Hammerfall DSP card. Here I
can run at a latency of 1.5ms though I can't do many other things
at the same time. At 6ms the system is rock solid. The drivers are
very good. RME runs its own support forum under
news://news.x-networks.de/rme-audio.forum

Their developers are there answering questions almost immediately.

Meanwhile I do own quite a lot of hardware from RME and I have
yet to regret the first buy.

Last not least the RME stuff works on both Macs and PCs which might
be of interest in case you want to resell it some time.

Best,
Michael
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Re: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by uswitalski@yahoo.de

> Hallo all, 
> I am currently shopping for audio I/O hardware for a Mac G-3 B&W 350, ext.
> Maxtor 40 Gig Firewire HD Logic 4.7 Platinum system. This system will be
> upgraded to dual G4/Logic 5/6-EXS24, Atmosphere, UAD-1, OSX system, later in
> the year. 
> I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was
> wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
> latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on present G3 and
> future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.
> I cannot seem to get many comments on this subject on the Logic list so am
> hoping this is the correct place to ask. If appropriate please email me
> privately.
> 
> Thank You,
> Vincent

hi vincent.

i got both 828 and multiface.
the 828 has poor converters (imho) and adds some buzzing to the signal if
trying to use the mic preams, well the rme has none so ...

the rme has no soundmanager driver for mac os 9. this sucks!
the 828 has very complete driver support under os 9 including a control
strip that makes things easy to set.

the rme got its "total mix" software letting you route signals from ins to
outs withous any cpu usage. i found this quite handy on tour. only having to
connect the rme and running the 828 thru the rme. so i'd only have to pass 8
channels to the local pa.

the rme is very fagile. i lost quite a few pcmcia card connectors on tour,
and it took rme 2 month one time to deliver a new connector! but you are
going for the pci card, so this will not be much of an issue.

the rme has wordclock in, the 828 doesn't. the 828 got adatsync in, but the
only syncronizer i could find (besides an adat system) was a motu timepiece
and that is expensive. i am missing wordclock in on the 828. its very
important to me and a big missing on the 828.

the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
alive but, still this sucks.

the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
be coming from that adapter.

the rme has no analog in-out-indicators on the front panal. i miss that, and
its a plus for the 828.

i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. as a matter
of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
preamp.

bottom line for me:
rme does everything it says on the box. and it does it well. i love that.

828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.

hope this is of any help,
cheers,
ulf.

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RE: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer

If I was to choose *between only* RME or MOTU, then I have no doubt that the
RME would be the selection!

On the other hand: Creamware (ugly name and terrible logo) offers *the exact
same*.. I've testet both RME & Creamware.

PLUS Creamware offers DSP's; ie. realtime effects & synths directly in Logic
/ Cubase / your application of choice. On top of this, the "livebar" is a
super cool tool offering realtime DSP-mixers, etc. This way I can playback
lots of synts & effects at 2-3% CPU load :-))

Latency is supposed to go down as far as 1ms, although I did'nt get all the
way to the bottom :]

//Kim

Re: [exs] Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Agreed.
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> Vincent wrote: I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I
> was wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
> latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance.
> 
> I have the Hammerfall and it just seems like there´s nothing bad to be said
> about that card. The lowest possible (at the moment) latency, 1.5 ms,
> incredibly stable, and no jitter whatsoever. Sound quality relies heavily on
> the converters so that´s not up to the Hammerfall. I know some cards have dsp
> onboard but if you check benchmark tests you will see that on many occasions
> the Hammerfall outperforms them anyway, probably due to their great working
> drivers. I´ve had mine for 3 years and it´s still in a class where very few,
> if any, can compete. You should probably be aware that a new one is on the
> way, it´s basically the same but it includes midi so it might be worth waiting
> for.
> Henrik Krogh
> henrikkrogh@...
> 
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Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by eatbuick@localnet.com

Hallo all, 
I am currently shopping for audio I/O hardware for a Mac G-3 B&W 350, ext.
Maxtor 40 Gig Firewire HD Logic 4.7 Platinum system. This system will be
upgraded to dual G4/Logic 5/6-EXS24, Atmosphere, UAD-1, OSX system, later in
the year. 
I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME Hammerfall . I was
wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues such as
latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on present G3 and
future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.
I cannot seem to get many comments on this subject on the Logic list so am
hoping this is the correct place to ask. If appropriate please email me
privately.

Thank You,
Vincent

Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-05 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>

I'm currently using two RME ADI-8 pro adda's thru adat 
lightpipes. The RME convertors sound fantastic and on my desk 
are another ADI-8 and the new Hammerfall card (the one with 
the dsp and midi) to check out. As soon as I've got them installed 
and tested I'll get back. 

The Hammerfall is to my knowledge the only Logic-compatible 
card to deliver a max of 24 (24!) analogue ins-outs over adat 
lightpipes. And that's only one card, imagine what possibilities 
you'd gain by adding another one....
(I used to use racks full of samplers and synthmodules and 
although they're still lying around in the studio, I'm pretty 
confident they'll leave the building one day soon...:))

I'd say go for the hammerfall, not the 828, what I've heared (and 
read here) it's not too stable...
Best,
O.






--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, <eatbuick@l...> wrote:
> Hallo all, 
> I am currently shopping for audio I/O hardware for a Mac G-3 
B&W 350, ext.
> Maxtor 40 Gig Firewire HD Logic 4.7 Platinum system. This 
system will be
> upgraded to dual G4/Logic 5/6-EXS24, Atmosphere, UAD-1, 
OSX system, later in
> the year. 
> I am currently debating the MOTU 828 and the RME 
Hammerfall . I was
> wondering if I could please ask for advice pertaining to issues 
such as
> latency, quality of sound (DA), reliability, performance (on 
present G3 and
> future G4), and anything else any cares to comment on.
> I cannot seem to get many comments on this subject on the 
Logic list so am
> hoping this is the correct place to ask. If appropriate please 
email me
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> privately.
> 
> Thank You,
> Vincent

Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Nick Batzdorf

"uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...> wrote:

>the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
>moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
>alive but, still this sucks.

I've never experienced that, not once. This must depend on the 
computer and software you're using.

>the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
>cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
>be coming from that adapter.

That only just now started happening on my unit, and I know why: I 
made the mistake of lending it to a "friend" for his concert, and he 
beat the shit out of it.

Your unit probably got knocked around too.

>i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. as a matter
>of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
>preamp.

Mine syncs to SPDIF (not AES going down a SPDIF line, I mean SPDIF) 
fine, and syncing to lightpipe is not a good idea under any 
circumstances. But I normally keep it locked to my digital mixer and 
Pro Tools rig with a Digital Timepiece (using ADAT sync)>

>828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
>actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.

I've found it to be an excellent box that behaves exactly as advertised.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Nick Batzdorf

From: "darealbasoski <mail@...>" <mail@...>


>I'd say go for the hammerfall, not the 828, what I've heared (and
>read here) it's not too stable...

I'm sorry, but that's just a load of bullshit. It's totally stable.


  - Not that I'm making a comparison between the two, since I've never 
used the Hammerfall.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Enemy of Silence <enemyofsilence@yahoo.c

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@e...> 
wrote:
> From: "darealbasoski <mail@o...>" <mail@o...>
> 
> 
> >I'd say go for the hammerfall, not the 828, what I've heared (and
> >read here) it's not too stable...
> 
> I'm sorry, but that's just a load of bullshit. It's totally stable.
> 

Gotta agree here. I use an 828 and it's been totally stable. No 
dropouts, nothing. I'm not crazy about the converters though, so I 
use a Digimax LT lightpiped to it. I've done long live recording 
sessions with it, 24bit/44.1 on a windows laptop and it's been 
totally stable. No clocking problems via lightpipe. I just plug the 
firewire cable into my G4 when I get home.

cheers,
Sean G.

Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>

A load of bs? Oh ok, haha:)
If you say so, I was just reffering to what I'd heared...
Glad it works for you then!

I've installed the Hammerfall DSP 9652 a few hours back and so 
far so good, more on this later.
O.




--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Enemy of Silence 
<enemyofsilence@y...>" <enemyofsilence@y...> wrote:
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf 
<recording@e...> 
> wrote:
> > From: "darealbasoski <mail@o...>" <mail@o...>
> > 
> > 
> > >I'd say go for the hammerfall, not the 828, what I've heared 
(and
> > >read here) it's not too stable...
> > 
> > I'm sorry, but that's just a load of bullshit. It's totally stable.
> > 
> 
> Gotta agree here. I use an 828 and it's been totally stable. No 
> dropouts, nothing. I'm not crazy about the converters though, so 
I 
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> use a Digimax LT lightpiped to it. I've done long live recording 
> sessions with it, 24bit/44.1 on a windows laptop and it's been 
> totally stable. No clocking problems via lightpipe. I just plug the 
> firewire cable into my G4 when I get home.
> 
> cheers,
> Sean G.

[exs] Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Dave Trenkel

>A load of bs? Oh ok, haha:)
>If you say so, I was just reffering to what I'd heared...
>Glad it works for you then!
>
>I've installed the Hammerfall DSP 9652 a few hours back and so
>far so good, more on this later.

What're your opinions on this? I'm thinking very seriously of getting 
the 9652 soon.

RE: [exs] Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer

Seriously.. MOTU may be stable, etc - I do not doubt it to be a good
product!!

But RME is better. AND Creamware is probably even better.

(okay, not going for a war (!) just very obvious from my chair ;-)
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Subject: [exs] Re: Hardware advice (D/A)


>A load of bs? Oh ok, haha:)
>If you say so, I was just reffering to what I'd heared...
>Glad it works for you then!
>
>I've installed the Hammerfall DSP 9652 a few hours back and so
>far so good, more on this later.

What're your opinions on this? I'm thinking very seriously of getting
the 9652 soon.




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Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-06 by Nick Batzdorf

>  > >I'd say go for the hammerfall, not the 828, what I've heared (and
>  > >read here) it's not too stable...

At which I hissed:

>  > I'm sorry, but that's just a load of bullshit. It's totally stable.

Sean G.:

>Gotta agree here. I use an 828 and it's been totally stable. No
>dropouts, nothing. I'm not crazy about the converters though, so I
>use a Digimax LT lightpiped to it. I've done long live recording
>sessions with it, 24bit/44.1 on a windows laptop and it's been
>totally stable. No clocking problems via lightpipe. I just plug the
>firewire cable into my G4 when I get home.

I use it on a Mac Pismo Powerbook that's been upgraded with a G4/500. 
And I use other converters too. It's a relatively cheap box that just 
does its job day in and out.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Re: [exs] Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-07 by uswitalski@yahoo.de

hi nick,

> "uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...> wrote:
> 
>> the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
>> moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
>> alive but, still this sucks.
> 
> I've never experienced that, not once. This must depend on the
> computer and software you're using.

pismo 500. in high cpu usage situations, or if the firewire bus gets used by
something else, the _input_ leds will flicker even with nothing connected
and the 828 stops outputting audio for a moment.
thats the situation it would crash before the latest driver.

>> the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
>> cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
>> be coming from that adapter.
> 
> That only just now started happening on my unit, and I know why: I
> made the mistake of lending it to a "friend" for his concert, and he
> beat the shit out of it.
> 
> Your unit probably got knocked around too.

could you tell me more. my device was send to motu and came back with the
comment that its ok. i have tested it in about 15 different situations in
different countries, with different power and connections... all the same,
the thing adds a buzz to my input signals that is way above the singel level
of material i try to record.
 
>> i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. as a matter
>> of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
>> preamp.
> 
> Mine syncs to SPDIF (not AES going down a SPDIF line, I mean SPDIF)
> fine, and syncing to lightpipe is not a good idea under any
> circumstances. But I normally keep it locked to my digital mixer and
> Pro Tools rig with a Digital Timepiece (using ADAT sync)>

why is syncing to lightpipe not a good idea?

>> 828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
>> actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.
> 
> I've found it to be an excellent box that behaves exactly as advertised.

so i am happy it works fine for you.
the point is there are some people that get the 828 to work just fine and
some (some more that i know of) that don't.
for the rme, it does everthing everyone was expecting it to do, no more, no
less, and thats what i love about a product these days. no mysterious
mis-configurations.

with _really_ kind regards,
ulf.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-07 by Nick Batzdorf

>  > "uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...> wrote:
>>
>>>  the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
>>>  moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
>>>  alive but, still this sucks.
>>
>>  I've never experienced that, not once. This must depend on the
>>  computer and software you're using.
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From: "uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...>

>pismo 500. in high cpu usage situations, or if the firewire bus gets used by
>something else, the _input_ leds will flicker even with nothing connected
>and the 828 stops outputting audio for a moment.
>thats the situation it would crash before the latest driver.

That's most likely because of the early Firewire implementation on 
earlier Powerbooks (including some early Ti models, I've been told). 
It's not that the bandwidth is limited (it is), it's a software thing.

I've never had problems with the 828 and a FW drive on my Pismo, but 
I couldn't get the Digi 002 to work on it very well at all - and the 
002 works fine on my dual gig Quicksilver. The 002 has 18 audio 
channels in each direction, MIDI, and control surface commands all 
open at once on the FW bus; that strains the Pismo too much.

If I was having FW bus problems with the 828 I'd get a PC card SCSI 
adapter and get as much off the bus as possible. But again, I'm not.

>  >> the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
>>>  cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
>>>  be coming from that adapter.
>>
>>  That only just now started happening on my unit, and I know why: I
>>  made the mistake of lending it to a "friend" for his concert, and he
>>  beat the shit out of it.
>>
>>  Your unit probably got knocked around too.
>
>could you tell me more. my device was send to motu and came back with the
>comment that its ok. i have tested it in about 15 different situations in
>different countries, with different power and connections... all the same,
>the thing adds a buzz to my input signals that is way above the singel level
>of material i try to record.

I haven't investigated this problem yet, so I'm afraid I don't know. 
All I know is that mine didn't do that, then I lent it to someone who 
somehow beat the holy living crap out of it, and I found the sweep 
recordings I made of Zipper Hall (to make Altiverb programs) have 
noise on them.

But I haven't ruled out other problems, so who knows what's going on.

>  >> i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. 
>as a matter
>>>  of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
>>>  preamp.
>>
>>  Mine syncs to SPDIF (not AES going down a SPDIF line, I mean SPDIF)
>>  fine, and syncing to lightpipe is not a good idea under any
>>  circumstances. But I normally keep it locked to my digital mixer and
>>  Pro Tools rig with a Digital Timepiece (using ADAT sync)>
>
>why is syncing to lightpipe not a good idea?

Because when it does work it's audibly jittery at best, especially 
over longer lightpipe runs. And at worst it doesn't work reliably.

>  >> 828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
>>>  actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.
>>
>>  I've found it to be an excellent box that behaves exactly as advertised.
>
>so i am happy it works fine for you.
>the point is there are some people that get the 828 to work just fine and
>some (some more that i know of) that don't.
>for the rme, it does everthing everyone was expecting it to do, no more, no
>less, and thats what i love about a product these days. no mysterious
>mis-configurations.
>
>with _really_ kind regards,
>ulf.

Understood, but you read about problems with every interface - 
including the RME on Macs (although I haven't heard anything but good 
things about it on the PC).
-- 

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818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Hammerfall 9652 DSP results (Was: Hardware advice)

2003-01-07 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>

Hello all,

for those interested;
Earlier I mentioned I was installing the Hammerfall 9652 DSP.

I work on a Mac Quicksilver G4 733/1536
Logic Audio Platinum 5.5
3 X RME  ADI-8 Pro over adat lightpipe
(24/24 channels of analgue I/O)

Today I finisihed a track with no less than 18 exs24 instances 
(one of them being the 256mb Splendid GrandPiano), 6 
audiotracks, topped with LOST of both 3rd party's and Logic's 
native plugins. 

...I suppose the DSP in the new 9652's title works like a horse, it 
gets an enormous load off of the Mac's processor. With all the 
above, neither of Logic's System Performance meters almost 
BLINKED! I think maybe the Disk I/O did like a mere 5% TOPS.

So anyone of you looking for serious performance, at this price I 
think the Hammerfall is unbeatable! (Well, for now, that is...)
Hiiiiiiighly recommended!
Best,
O.


PS: Anybody need an old Sonorus...?

Re: Hammerfall 9652 DSP results (Was: Hardware advice)

2003-01-07 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>

I'm sorry, it's actualy 18 EXS24 instances and 11 audiotrax.
Just so u know,
O.




--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "darealbasoski 
<mail@o...>" <mail@o...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> for those interested;
> Earlier I mentioned I was installing the Hammerfall 9652 DSP.
> 
> I work on a Mac Quicksilver G4 733/1536
> Logic Audio Platinum 5.5
> 3 X RME  ADI-8 Pro over adat lightpipe
> (24/24 channels of analgue I/O)
> 
> Today I finisihed a track with no less than 18 exs24 instances 
> (one of them being the 256mb Splendid GrandPiano), 6 
> audiotracks, topped with LOST of both 3rd party's and Logic's 
> native plugins. 
> 
> ...I suppose the DSP in the new 9652's title works like a horse, 
it 
> gets an enormous load off of the Mac's processor. With all the 
> above, neither of Logic's System Performance meters almost 
> BLINKED! I think maybe the Disk I/O did like a mere 5% TOPS.
> 
> So anyone of you looking for serious performance, at this price 
I 
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> think the Hammerfall is unbeatable! (Well, for now, that is...)
> Hiiiiiiighly recommended!
> Best,
> O.
> 
> 
> PS: Anybody need an old Sonorus...?

Re: [exs] Hammerfall 9652 DSP results (Was: Hardware advice)

2003-01-08 by Dave Trenkel

>Hello all,
>
>for those interested;
>Earlier I mentioned I was installing the Hammerfall 9652 DSP.
>
>
>So anyone of you looking for serious performance, at this price I
>think the Hammerfall is unbeatable! (Well, for now, that is...)
>Hiiiiiiighly recommended!
>Best,
>O.

This is just what I needed to hear. I ordered a 9652 and it'll be 
here today or tomorrow, can't wait!

Re: [exs] Hammerfall 9652 DSP results (Was: Hardware advice)

2003-01-08 by darealbasoski <mail@olavbasoski.nl>

Mind you Dave, I have the DSP here, so hopefuly that's the one 
you ordered. Probably yes, the previous 9652 might be out of 
production by now.

Even with the buffersize up to 512 (anything below 512 gave me 
ticks and splatters) the latency is down to 12 ms and to me 
unnoticable. Pretty cool stuff.
Goodluck,
O.



--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Dave Trenkel 
<improv@p...> wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >for those interested;
> >Earlier I mentioned I was installing the Hammerfall 9652 
DSP.
> >
> >
> >So anyone of you looking for serious performance, at this 
price I
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> >think the Hammerfall is unbeatable! (Well, for now, that is...)
> >Hiiiiiiighly recommended!
> >Best,
> >O.
> 
> This is just what I needed to hear. I ordered a 9652 and it'll be 
> here today or tomorrow, can't wait!

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