EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:25 UTC

Message

Re: Re: Re: Re: Hardware advice (D/A)

2003-01-07 by Nick Batzdorf

>  > "uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...> wrote:
>>
>>>  the 828 drops out sometimes. if the cpu hits high it mutes the outs for a
>>>  moment. in previous driver versions it would crash, now it mutes and stays
>>>  alive but, still this sucks.
>>
>>  I've never experienced that, not once. This must depend on the
>>  computer and software you're using.

From: "uswitalski@..." <uswitalski@...>

>pismo 500. in high cpu usage situations, or if the firewire bus gets used by
>something else, the _input_ leds will flicker even with nothing connected
>and the 828 stops outputting audio for a moment.
>thats the situation it would crash before the latest driver.

That's most likely because of the early Firewire implementation on 
earlier Powerbooks (including some early Ti models, I've been told). 
It's not that the bandwidth is limited (it is), it's a software thing.

I've never had problems with the 828 and a FW drive on my Pismo, but 
I couldn't get the Digi 002 to work on it very well at all - and the 
002 works fine on my dual gig Quicksilver. The 002 has 18 audio 
channels in each direction, MIDI, and control surface commands all 
open at once on the FW bus; that strains the Pismo too much.

If I was having FW bus problems with the 828 I'd get a PC card SCSI 
adapter and get as much off the bus as possible. But again, I'm not.

>  >> the 828 has an internal mains adapter. i like that for i gives me less
>>>  cables and things to carry on tour. but i suspect the buzz on the inputs to
>>>  be coming from that adapter.
>>
>>  That only just now started happening on my unit, and I know why: I
>>  made the mistake of lending it to a "friend" for his concert, and he
>>  beat the shit out of it.
>>
>>  Your unit probably got knocked around too.
>
>could you tell me more. my device was send to motu and came back with the
>comment that its ok. i have tested it in about 15 different situations in
>different countries, with different power and connections... all the same,
>the thing adds a buzz to my input signals that is way above the singel level
>of material i try to record.

I haven't investigated this problem yet, so I'm afraid I don't know. 
All I know is that mine didn't do that, then I lent it to someone who 
somehow beat the holy living crap out of it, and I found the sweep 
recordings I made of Zipper Hall (to make Altiverb programs) have 
noise on them.

But I haven't ruled out other problems, so who knows what's going on.

>  >> i had a lot of trouble syncing the 828 to spdif or adat-optical. 
>as a matter
>>>  of fact, i gave up evertime and used the analog inputs with an external mic
>>>  preamp.
>>
>>  Mine syncs to SPDIF (not AES going down a SPDIF line, I mean SPDIF)
>>  fine, and syncing to lightpipe is not a good idea under any
>>  circumstances. But I normally keep it locked to my digital mixer and
>>  Pro Tools rig with a Digital Timepiece (using ADAT sync)>
>
>why is syncing to lightpipe not a good idea?

Because when it does work it's audibly jittery at best, especially 
over longer lightpipe runs. And at worst it doesn't work reliably.

>  >> 828 is the usual lie about what it is supposed to be doing and what is
>>>  actually usable. i would not buy an 828 again.
>>
>>  I've found it to be an excellent box that behaves exactly as advertised.
>
>so i am happy it works fine for you.
>the point is there are some people that get the 828 to work just fine and
>some (some more that i know of) that don't.
>for the rme, it does everthing everyone was expecting it to do, no more, no
>less, and thats what i love about a product these days. no mysterious
>mis-configurations.
>
>with _really_ kind regards,
>ulf.

Understood, but you read about problems with every interface - 
including the RME on Macs (although I haven't heard anything but good 
things about it on the PC).
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.