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Re: Rate of change cc?

2003-01-11 by Nick Batzdorf

I wrote:

>You know, advanced as this has all become, the thing that still makes
>working with sample libraries something of a compromise is that you
>have to call up different programs for different variations of  the
>same sound. Marcato and legato strings, for example. Things like
>keyswitching and extreme controller mapping help, but it's still not
>quite there as far as I'm concerned.

From: <HELP@...>

>Hey, that's what key-switching is for. Seemed to work pretty effectively.

It works very effectively, but what I'm suggesting (a "rate of 
controller change" controller) could do more - not that you couldn't 
use both, of course. If nothing else, you wouldn't have to use one 
hand to switch programs, so that hand becomes available to move other 
controllers or play other notes.

The main thing to me, though, is that you're thinking about playing 
rather than about switching programs. And it's all done with the 
breath controller - one controller. When it moves quickly from 
nothing to 127, you automatically get a fast attack sample. When you 
gradually release the pressure, you get less amplitude and crossfade 
to a quieter sample. When the pressure goes to zero, you get a 
release sample. You can map a little breath pressure to pitch, too, 
for a breath-controlled vibrato. And open and control a filter, or 
control the send to an exciter. It goes on and on.

>  I'd much rather be an accomplished guitarist
>than try to have to mimic a guitarist on a keyboard.

Sure, I'd rather be a virtuoso on one instrument than good on some 
and bad on others (I play about six instruments, depending on how you 
count them, and not all of them well)!

>But I know I can do
>some cool stuff and some of it can't be replicated on a guitar. In my work
>in industrial-dance music, that can be a bonus for designing new moods and
>textures. -Jer

There's that. I'm mainly thinking about orchestral simulations, 
though. Lots of people are working hard on the problem, and this is 
my suggestion.

EXS 2 now has the controller implementation to make this work - if we 
map it properly.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

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