EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

You're right... I've been following this thread from the start and 
was still uncertain if to post something or not...
Then I made up my mind... by using PhatMatik Pro...

This thing is not finished: the autoslice never works and cuts 
attacks very badly and fixing them is a very lenghty work... better 
going back to my Recycle 2 and EXS24 solution... a bit more time 
consuming but much more effective... The PP idea is gorgeous but they 
sold us a product with the promise of a quick update to 1.1 no less 
than 4 or 5 months ago... and this in my job means ages, can't even 
remember what I was doing then but I used PP a couple of times and 
from then on the Recylce/EXS solution worked best for me always even 
if my first try is for PP.. I am lazy guy... I paid too much for a 
software not finished... we should stop complaining the big companies 
when even the small developers are this "bad"... and they make more 
money than the BIG ones because they have less expenses and they 
still charge quite much for their software.

I don't want to be rude to anyone (not even to Art) but music biz is 
a small world and I think no one can afford to be so short sighted... 
what about some more infos on the bitshift site? an email? feel like 
I wasted completely my money for the first time in my life in a 
software product.

Talking about NI my experience with support has always been good and 
I own all of their packages (including sound libraries) apart the 
Tonewheels... but these are all personal views and somebody might (I 
think WILL) have a different thought about this whole thing... after 
all we are all Emagic users and I never liked their attitude towards 
users (support wise and with the PC abandoning policy and the 
response code thing going on forever even with the help of the 
italian distributor)... I am a Logic user coming from PC (version 2 
point something) and switched to Mac with version 4 in 2000 (actually 
bought another key and license)... now my PC is a happy expander 
(with Kontakt, Tassman, Gigastudio, Soundforge, Live, Acid 4 and...) 
with much more horse power than my DP 1 GHz Mac with the UAD1...

Simone Coen


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "technodork_2000 
<technodork_2000@y...>" <technodork_2000@y...> wrote:
> What about the way PhatMatik cuts off the attacks of your drum 
> hits?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Phil Buckle <pbuckle@o...> 
> wrote:
> > on 1/2/03 3:17 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com at 
> exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >> Don't get bummed or excited just yet.
> > >> The NAMM presentation was just a Powerpoint display. 
> Early days I would say.
> > >> Meanwhile pHatmaticPro and pHatFactory kick serious butt 
> and they are
> > >> available right now. This little plug really changed the way I 
> work.
> > >> Phil Buckle.
> > > 
> > > really? how do you keep it from crashing you every half hour?
> > > 
> > > I find it unusable at the moment.
> > > 
> > > teddybut
> > I'm using a Mac and pHatfactory and pHatmaticpro.
> > There is a problem for some of us if more than three PPro's 
> are used. I get
> > around this by bouncing.
> > There was a problem using pHatfactory in a song with a 
> pHatmatikpro but Art
> > fixed this and sent me a new version. It works perfectly now.
> > Yes,  Art can be a little brusque if your attitude is a little 
loose 
> but I
> > put that down to a musician/programmer temperament and a 
> very busy schedule.
> > He seems to be a very creative guy and has programmed 
> some great sounding
> > loops for his own and other peoples products (Spectrasonics).
> > On the other hand I don't trust NI one little bit.
> > They stuck it to me with Battery and Dynamo and I won't be 
> buying anything
> > from them  until I see a change in attitude and support.
> > 
> > About this pHatmatikpro issue.........I sometimes wonder if we 
> don't get a
> > little to anal about how perfect something is. I mean if 
> something keeps
> > crashing your system then......fair enough, you have a relevant 
> gripe. But I
> > didn't even know that pHatmatikpro had these problems you 
> guys are talking
> > about.
> > My loops are in time, my work flow has improved and I can do 
> things with
> > loops I could never do before.
> > Are you guys working or obsessing over your tools?
> > BTW the file features you are looking for in pHatmatikpro are 
> present in
> > pHatfactory and it's fabulous. This will of course be 
> implemented in the
> > update of pHatmatikpro.
> > Phil Buckle.