EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

On Sunday, Mar 9, 2003, at 21:43 Europe/Amsterdam, teddybut wrote:

> Yes, more sample accurate is better, ok??? only in so far as it allows 
> for
> more precise rendering of musical intention. blablabla we all know that
> already.

Not all of us.

> I have experienced and appreciate Academia, but I find Nick's statement
> childish. "Timing is _the_ carrier of musical emotion". That sounds 
> like a
> bunch of over thinking music teachers sitting around getting paid to 
> think
> up definitive statements to rationalize why no one dances at their 
> concerts.
> There is a difference between thoughtful and anal-retentive, Nick.

Damn, there goes the foundation of my world..

And I'm *not* an academic.

> If a performer makes you feel something through their performance, 
> there is
> emotion in their music... *for you*.

Ow, just for me? Oh really? Ow, how nice!! (butterflies, flowers, 
puppies in slowmotion)

> For someone else it might not be the
> same.

okokok, its this: You couple a period of your life to a certain kind of 
music that will envoke the emotional state in which you lived in that 
period.

Hearing the Doors makes me giggle for instance. Hearing Prince makes me 
going through puberty again.=)

> I think it is subjective and there is no standard of what makes
> emotion in music.

Erm, well, I did enough damage for today, so maybe later we...?

> It is up to the individual musician to find their way of
> how to convey their particular emotion and then up to the listener to 
> decide
> if they dig it or not. "But what about an undeniable performance?" you 
> might
> ask... In your circle of friends it might be undeniable, but I can 
> guarantee
> you'll always be able to find someone who doesn't feel it.
>
> If I had to come up with some standards for any musician to have the 
> BEST
> chance to communicate emotion in their music, they would be:
> 1) spiritual connection to the universal music force, i.e. letting go
> 2) honestly and unaffectedly being true to their self, i.e. not being 
> fake
> 3) great compositional skills, i.e. they did their homework
>
> for me those things are the most important things to shoot for no 
> matter
> what kind of music you are making.
>
> And then there's LYRICS... to me, most people react to lyrics and how
> they're married to the other obvious musical elements. I guess The
> Netherlands doesn't have lyrics? OR??
>
> What the hell this has to do with the EXS24 I'll never know.

It was about its tight timing... Compared to hardware samplers.. Thus 
beeing more able to faithfully reproduce an artist's intention..

In the old past, a guy named Paul wanted to know..

> but you arguing
> Dutch Gentlemen have got it all too intellectual from where I sit.
> Intellectualizing music is fine (necessary?) for learning how to play, 
> but
> it is hardly ever helpful in getting musicians to learn how to feel.

It gives some insight in how other people (composers) felt and 
translated that into music.

> By the way... I get paid to perform, not teach or explain or talk.

Whohoo! a freebee!

> I am,
> however, available for lectures in the Netherlands to enlighten the 
> cold,
> sad music teachers who have been teaching music backwards for 
> centuries and
> feel the need to clog internet lists with their own irrelevant 
> opinions. I
> am however, not inexpensive.

But you have such a cute name. It will do wonders on billboards around 
my school.

>
> teddybut
>
>




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