EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Me:

>  > (Sorry to repost the whole thing)
>>
>>  Cyril, it's no secret that these huge libraries require multiple
>>  machines if you want to do a lot of stuff without bouncing. That's
>>  why Hans Zimmer has about a dozen Giga machines.
>>
>>  Also, I'm pretty sure that the Mac version just isn't ready yet,
>>  because there would be no point in them programming that library for
>>  EXS24 PC when it's about to go down the toilet. And if you need
>>  multiple machines, it makes a lot more sense to buy $600 PCs than
>>  $2500 Macs for the purpose!
>>
>>  Finally, I have a hard time complaining about the limits of single
>>  computers when I hear what the "new sampling" sounds like!
>>

I think Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> wrote:

>  > Hans Zimmer is rich ! not all musician can afford a dozen giga machine !

Then we have to live with some bouncing to disk. Right now the best 
way of emulating an orchestra - and many other instruments - is to 
use those huge streaming sample libraries (at least for the bulk of 
the sounds). If you want that, you have to put up with one machine 
not handling the whole thing at once. In the future that'll almost 
certainly change, but right now you need more than one machine.

And I know Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> wrote:

>We will see, the guy in the shop proposed 2 x 3500 USD PC ! not 2 x 600 USD
>PC

I don't know about European prices, but it would be very hard to 
spend that much on a Windows machine in this country. Even the name 
brand 3 GHz machines aren't that much here. $600 isn't an 
exaggeration, by the way - that's what it costs to put together a 
suitable 2.x GHz Windows machine from components in this country.

>Also to use a PC for this seem VERY stupid, you do not need XP to run a
>Sampler ! you can throw 99 % of the window code to run a sampler.

Maybe, but the cheapest way to get the horsepower you need to run 
soft instruments is to buy a cheap Windows machine. They're commodity 
items due to the economy of scale.

>Also you will have to pay me to buy a PC, I do not want that machine in my
>studio !

Either do I, but I'm considering it very seriously. And I doubt they 
crash all that much if you're only running Giga or EXS (which, by the 
way, requires another copy of Logic!).

Of course, if I do buy one then I'm going to want to use it to 
transfer numbers to my cell phone, which I can't do on the Mac, and 
and and...

>I would prefer to buy a dedicated sampler ! that does not crash every 15
>minutes !

Those machines don't run the large streaming libraries!

>Supit8tracks did some test with it\ufffds 1.25 GHz MAC and manage to have 270
>simultaneous EXS voices, that is enough for an orchestra !

Right, I've had similar results. But those voices weren't streaming 
off the hard drive. That, more than the processor, is the limiting 
factor.
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Nick Batzdorf
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