EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

On a fine day, 17-08-2003, teddybut wrote:

>  > I just tried and it seems to work flawlessly.  Empty song, put an EXS
>>  on the 1st track, automate various mod-matrix parameters (including
>>  activating/deactivating them, adjusting the "amount" and "via"
>  > sliders, etc).  Put EXS in 'Read' mode: plays back fine.
>[...]
>
>Strange. When I try to automate that stuff by moving the matrix settings
>nothing gets recorded. Latch, Touch, Write, doesn't matter. Who knows why?
>ESB???

Ehrm... I didn't automate by moving the EXS faders, but by 
hyperdrawing in Arrange.  Still shouldn't make a difference though.

<...>  Just tried myself, manipulating the EXS controls directly (EXS 
in Touch mode) and here's what happens:

Drag a 'Via' slider in the mod-matrix: gets recorded as expected. 
This is not a surprise: sliders in general are "problem free" 
controls that behave as expected.  It's the popups that worry me. 
Hence the following:

Change a Src or Dst parameter: the very 1st node of the automation 
track gets changed, regardless of where Logic is playing.  I.e. have 
Logic play, change the 'Dest' from Sample Start to e.g. Volume when 
you're at bar 4, and the automation shows 'Volume' as the node at bar 
1, tick 1 (which formerly was Sample Start).  No data at bar 4 gets 
recorded.

This last behaviour is weird and inconsistent with how Autoamtion is 
supposed to work imo.  If you 'hand draw' an automation node at bar 
4, it gets played back fine, and everything works as expected.  Save 
song, close, reopen: the stuff is still there and still works.

Hand-drawing a second node and deleting the very first one does no 
harm: the 2nd node (now 1st :) gets played back fine.

Another weird one: draw node at bar 4, delete node at bar 1, draw 
node at bar 5: a new node at bar 1 is automatically created.  In 
fact, no matter what you do, as soon as you draw or delete a new node 
after you've deleted the bar-1-node, the initial node at bar 1 is 
recreated.  Heck, even dragging the bar-4 node up or down recreates 
the bar-1 node.

>Anyway, I just moved the controllers to where I wanted them in the track
>automation view. In the process I discovered, at least on my setup, that
>there has to be something on the downbeat and then it has to change to the
>desired parameter for the automation to work.

I guess by 'downbeat' you mean bar 1, tick 1, right?  See above: I 
can delete this one, but Logic insist on recreating it as soon as you 
do anything to the track automation.

>The tip about moving the track automation to an object is very much
>appreciated. Now I can mute that and put it in my Autoload for future setup
>changes. Pretty cool. Thanks HJV.

You're welcome.  Glad you got it working somehow.  And yes, putting 
the stuff in an object is way handier in cases like this, since it 
allows you to simply drag the sequence to whichever EXS instance you 
might happen to have.

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