EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Urgent,

Has ANYONE on this list purchased the higher end ($2,500-$5,400) Vienna cube 
set and have had any negative or positive reults using it with Logics EXs24?

-ANY thoughts would be major appreciated as I am contemplting a new string 
library this year.

-Terry Michael Huud
www.Music4TheMovies.com


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On 12/11/03 12:20 AM, "Huud@..." <Huud@...> wrote:

> Urgent,
> 
> Has ANYONE on this list purchased the higher end ($2,500-$5,400) Vienna cube
> set and have had any negative or positive reults using it with Logics EXs24?
> 
> -ANY thoughts would be major appreciated as I am contemplting a new string
> library this year.
> 
Hello

I am also hesitating between VSL and QLSO.
Apparently you must be very carefull about the hardware you are going to use
as VSL is VERY VERY greedy
If you hacve an high end mac 2x1.2 and with 2 or 3 Gigasampler PC there are
no problems but !

I have just bought a 2x2ghz G5 WITH 2.5 GB for this purpose

By the end of this month we should have figures of QLSO as the EXS version
will be available.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
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From: Huud@...

>Urgent,

Yikes!

>Has ANYONE on this list purchased the higher end ($2,500-$5,400) Vienna cube
>set and have had any negative or positive reults using it with Logics EXs24?
>
>-ANY thoughts would be major appreciated as I am contemplting a new string

It's great, and it works great in EXS format. This is what I think of it:

http://mixonline.com/ar/audio_vienna_symphonic_library_5/index.htm
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

From: Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...>

>I am also hesitating between VSL and QLSO.

Just to be clear, my ringing endorsement of VSL is not a comment that 
you should buy it over QLSO. They're both great in different ways.

>Apparently you must be very carefull about the hardware you are going to use
>as VSL is VERY VERY greedy

Not really, Cyril. You do need two or possibly three machines (unless 
the G5 changes that), but it's recorded without reverb, so it's not 
really voice-intensive. The Performance samples take up some memory, 
but the regular Cube instruments are very efficient. I wrote one 
over-the-top huge cue with the kitchen sink in it that fits on one 
machine easily.

>If you hacve an high end mac 2x1.2 and with 2 or 3 Gigasampler PC there are
>no problems but !

Ah, then it's just a matter of what one calls greedy.

>I have just bought a 2x2ghz G5 WITH 2.5 GB for this purpose
>
>By the end of this month we should have figures of QLSO as the EXS version
>will be available.

Lots of people are going to be interested in how G5s work with QLSO. 
QLSO is far more voice-intensive than VSL, of course, since its whole 
selling point is that it's recorded with reverb. And it's released in 
24 bits, which automatically means 1/3 more data to stream. Kompakt 
also seems to be more processor-intensive than EXS even when you're 
not using its DSP, but I'm not sure whether that's really true.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

For me the biggest issue has been RAM, the individual basic instruments are 
fairly efficient, but if you try and load one of the larger, All Strings Ensemble 
sus patches, it can easily chew up all of your ram, just one instance of EXS24 
and one patch loaded, nothing else int he session period! I struggled to load 2 
instances of EXS24 with 1 sus and 1 stac patch, it easily used up all 1.5gb of 
ram on a Dual 1ghz G4.  Of course Logic seems to take more and more ram 
just for the autoload these days, typically in the 400 - 500mb range.

I would be interested to hear what others are experiencing?

From: "technodork_2000" <technodork_2000@...>

>For me the biggest issue has been RAM, the individual basic instruments are
>fairly efficient, but if you try and load one of the larger, All 
>Strings Ensemble
>sus patches, it can easily chew up all of your ram, just one instance of EXS24
>and one patch loaded, nothing else int he session period! I 
>struggled to load 2
>instances of EXS24 with 1 sus and 1 stac patch, it easily used up all 1.5gb of
>ram on a Dual 1ghz G4.  Of course Logic seems to take more and more ram
>just for the autoload these days, typically in the 400 - 500mb range.
>
>I would be interested to hear what others are experiencing?

You don't have disk streaming turned on, so it's trying to load the 
entire program into memory.

Don't feel bad!
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434