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Wizoo Latin

2003-11-15 by HKC

Thanks for the help. It turns out that some CD drives apparently has this problem at least that�s what Wizoo informed me. They also replied and sent the missing instrument within an hour or so, thumbs up to them, now everything works. BTW Indeed these are very good sounds, for 99 $ they�re a bargain-great idea with that ambianced drum set up, I wish all my drumsounds would work that way and the piano is a great in-between solution if you think Steinway B is too bright and Malmsj� too dark.
Henrik Krogh
henrikkrogh@...


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Re: [EXS] Wizoo Latin

2003-11-15 by Shane Fawkes

Henrik,

Thanks for keeping us posted on this. I ordered it at the beginning of 
this past week (based on all the positive comments on this list btw) so 
am glad to hear about all these things.

Regards,

Shane
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On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 08:08  AM, HKC wrote:

> Thanks for the help. It turns out that some CD drives apparently has 
> this problem at least that´s what Wizoo informed me. They also replied 
> and sent the missing instrument within an hour or so, thumbs up to 
> them, now everything works. BTW Indeed these are very good sounds, for 
> 99 $ they´re a bargain-great idea with that ambianced drum set up, I 
> wish all my drumsounds would work that way and the piano is a great 
> in-between solution if you think Steinway B is too bright and Malmsjö 
> too dark.
> Henrik Krogh
> henrikkrogh@mail.dk

[EXS] Bela D vocal samples

2003-11-25 by Sean McCoy

Has anybody tried these out yet? The recorded demos sound nice, but they 
don't have a program demo so it's impossible to tell how flexible the 
samples are. It's hard to imagine a really useable classical solo vocal 
library, but here's hoping....


http://www.beladmedia.com/index.html

Re: [EXS] Bela D vocal samples

2003-11-25 by Fernstudio

Hi Sean,

On Nov 24, 2003, at 4:01 PM, Sean McCoy wrote:

> Has anybody tried these out yet? The recorded demos sound nice, but 
> they
> don't have a program demo so it's impossible to tell how flexible the
> samples are. It's hard to imagine a really useable classical solo vocal
> library, but here's hoping....
>
> http://www.beladmedia.com/index.html

I own these.  How flexible would you like them to be?  IMHO, I believe 
that they will become more flexible when the Extended set will become 
available.  The DIVA Classical Soloists is vibrato heavy (and that's 
the way that they are intended).  They are beautifully recorded and 
certainly usable.  If you plan on making them sing actual words, it is 
possible (although still limited) but it will be more difficult.  The 
standard vowels are there as are some consonants.  Soloist 2 of the set 
pretty much only covers 1 octave which makes it less flexible and 
soloist only covers 1 and a half octaves.  I would have preferred a 
full two octaves for both so that you're not constrained to certain 
keys for a melody.  The attacks on the original samples have been 
trimmed as the developer indicated to me that the attacks were simply 
too slow to get very consistent playing out of them.  The editing is 
pretty good and is playable out of the box.  It translates pretty well 
to exs-24 from Gigasampler (I used CDXtract for this).  They really 
work well for haunting moods as well as some of the pretty and 
beautiful stuff you hear from the demos.  They are not intended to be 
screaming fff vocals so keep that in mind.

Simply looking at the name may mislead you a little (Classical 
Soloists) as you won't be sequencing an opera with them.  As you can 
tell from the demos, they do sound wonderful.  I am quite happy with 
them and looking forward to the Extended addition to this library.  
With straight tones as well as delayed vibrato and 2 octaves to work 
with, I believe that the set will be more useful together than by 
itself.  The nice thing is that owners of the 1st set can upgrade to 
Extended for only $49.95.

There is no utility like there is for Voices of the Apocalypse and, 
given the samples that are there, it would probably be difficult to 
form words in the same way (not that it is completely impossible).  
There are short syllables that have been sampled but, IMHO, they lose 
some of their usefulness because they are pitched and are only 
available at that one pitch.

If you plan on doing similar pieces of music with this library then you 
will find it useful.  If you are planning on having it sing a bunch of 
lyrics then you'll probably be disappointed.

Hope this helps in your decision.

Fernstudio

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Re: [EXS] Bela D vocal samples

2003-11-25 by Sean McCoy

>If you plan on doing similar pieces of music with this library then you
>will find it useful.  If you are planning on having it sing a bunch of
>lyrics then you'll probably be disappointed.
>
>Hope this helps in your decision.

Yes, a very helpful assessment. No, I don't expect to ever (literally) be 
using samples to create lyrics, but with my experiences with vocal samples 
until now just being able to move from one note to another would be an 
improvement! Sounds like there is definitely some usefulness to be had 
here. Thanks,

Sean McCoy
Oregon Sound Recording

RE: [EXS] Bela D vocal samples

2003-11-25 by Fernstudio

Hi Sean,

> Yes, a very helpful assessment. No, I don't 
> expect to ever (literally) be using samples 
> to create lyrics, but with my experiences 
> with vocal samples until now just being able 
> to move from one note to another would be an 
> improvement! Sounds like there is definitely 
> some usefulness to be had here. Thanks,

Just to be clear here, moving from one note to another still involves a little 
work with the first part of the library as there are no intervals recorded 
(other than the performance files).  Working with the envelopes as well as a 
bit of reverb helps to hide some of the problems.  Having said that, I have 
found that it doesn't require very much work at all though.  DIVA Extended 
offers some intervals which will help quite a bit in terms of achieving some 
realism.

I don't know if you've contacted Francis Belardino (developer of the library) 
but he is very helpful and quick to respond.  He also encourages and very much 
appreciates suggestions.

Good luck with it and feel free to ask more questions if you like.

Fernstudio

Re: [EXS] Bela D vocal samples

2003-11-26 by rocksteadybeats

Sean

Can I also suggest doing a search at the Northern Sounds forum
(http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=3)
if you haven't done so already.

I know the developer of the library posts to the forum. It's an
excellent resource for picking up news and views on sample librariers
(as well as DAW orchestration). 

Kind Regards
-Andrew

SoundsOnline Xmas sale

2003-12-14 by Sean McCoy

For anyone who doesn't get their newsletters, SoundsOnline is having a 35% 
off sale that applies to nearly everything they have. This is pretty hefty, 
and a good opportunity to save substantially on many of the libraries that 
are often touted here such as Post pianos, SAM products, Drumkit From Hell, 
etc. (unfortunately, QLSO is not included)  Just order by the 24th and use 
the promotional code XMAS at checkout.

http://www.soundsonline.com/

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