EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello

I got some classical midi files using the control 11 : expression.
If I use the EXS24, will it understand this controller or do I have to
convert to another one ?

How could you explain this controller : "Expression" ?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

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Cyril Blanc wrote:
> 
> How could you explain this controller : "Expression" ?

Bonjour Cyril,

It's like a 2nd volume control, useful for doing volume fluctuations 
within a track, e.g. to fade a sustaining note, to do crescendos and 
diminuendos, to do a slow attack on one particular note, etc. etc.

This leaves CC07 free to be a master volume for that track. Without CC11 
all those fades, slow attacks, crescendos and diminuendos would have to 
be done using CC07 and, therefore, would need to be edited every time 
you wanted to make the whole track softer or louder. (Been there, done 
that many years ago - trust me, it's not pleasant!)


HTH  :-)

On 22/11/03 6:43, "Bill Canty" <bill@...> wrote:

> Cyril Blanc wrote:
>> 
>> How could you explain this controller : "Expression" ?
> 
> Bonjour Cyril,
> 
> It's like a 2nd volume control, useful for doing volume fluctuations
> within a track, e.g. to fade a sustaining note, to do crescendos and
> diminuendos, to do a slow attack on one particular note, etc. etc.
> 
> This leaves CC07 free to be a master volume for that track. Without CC11
> all those fades, slow attacks, crescendos and diminuendos would have to
> be done using CC07 and, therefore, would need to be edited every time
> you wanted to make the whole track softer or louder. (Been there, done
> that many years ago - trust me, it's not pleasant!)
> 
> 
> HTH  :-)
> 
Hello Bill
Thanks for your answer.
So what should I do with them if the midi track is sent to an EXS instrument
; does the EXS understands "expression"
Do I have to convert it to a CC 07 ?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

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Cyril Blanc wrote:
> 
> So what should I do with them if the midi track is sent to an EXS instrument
> ; does the EXS understands "expression"
> Do I have to convert it to a CC 07 ?

Sorry Cyril, I can't help you with that one. I haven't used my EXS24 yet 
because I can hardly get it to work on my system, certainly not well 
enough to bother playing with it. :-(

On 22/11/03 8:16, "Bill Canty" <bill@...> wrote:

> Cyril Blanc wrote:
>> 
>> So what should I do with them if the midi track is sent to an EXS instrument
>> ; does the EXS understands "expression"
>> Do I have to convert it to a CC 07 ?
> 
> Sorry Cyril, I can't help you with that one. I haven't used my EXS24 yet
> because I can hardly get it to work on my system, certainly not well
> enough to bother playing with it. :-(
> 
What is the matter with your system ?
Do you want some help ?
.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

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On a fine day, 22-11-2003, Cyril Blanc wrote:

>So what should I do with them if the midi track is sent to an EXS instrument
>; does the EXS understands "expression"
>Do I have to convert it to a CC 07 ?

The EXS "understands" any controller you want. Just assign whatever 
controller to whichever function in the EXS's modulation matrix.  In 
this case, assign CC11 to volume, and you're set.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Cyril Blanc wrote:
 >
 >>I haven't used my EXS24 yet because I can
 >>hardly get it to work on my system, certainly
 >>not well enough to bother playing with it.
 >
 > What is the matter with your system ?
 > Do you want some help ?

Yes thanks, Cyril, I'd *love* some help. :o)

But I don't want to waste the group's time with vague, useless 
questions. One day (or week!) I'll find the time and determination to 
figure out *exactly* what problems are happening, with different 
settings, etc., and then I'll be back asking for specific help.


Cheers,   Bill

On 22/11/03 16:50, "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...> wrote:

> On a fine day, 22-11-2003, Cyril Blanc wrote:
> 
>> So what should I do with them if the midi track is sent to an EXS instrument
>> ; does the EXS understands "expression"
>> Do I have to convert it to a CC 07 ?
> 
> The EXS "understands" any controller you want. Just assign whatever
> controller to whichever function in the EXS's modulation matrix.  In
> this case, assign CC11 to volume, and you're set.

Hello Hendrik,

I got a message from Evan Evan saying :

> The EXS natively reacts to CC11. No additional programming or routing is
> necessary.
> 
> Evan Evans

How could I check this, I never played with the parameters of the EXS !

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

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On a fine day, 23-11-2003, Cyril Blanc wrote:

>Hello Hendrik,
>
>I got a message from Evan Evan saying :
>
>>  The EXS natively reacts to CC11. No additional programming or routing is
>>  necessary.
>>
>>  Evan Evans
>
>How could I check this, I never played with the parameters of the EXS !

Just send the EXS some CC11 messages (plus some notes of course :-) 
and see what happens -- that seems to be the easiets way to check if 
it works.  If nothing happens, go to the modulation matrix, pick an 
empty slot, set 'volume' for destination (Dst), pick CC11 for source 
(Src), and see how that works.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/