EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi, I bought the "Big Box" and my EXS24 finally expired and I have the EXSP 
now. I had numerous Giga converted instruments that loaded in about 5-10 
sec. with EXS24 and now with EXSP it takes 3-4 min! I cannot allocate sample 
memory with OSX and when I try to play the GIGA samples, after they finally 
load, they pop horribly. Can the EXSP not handle large samples like the 
EXS24 could? I'm frustrated and confused and I feel like i got screwed! what 
am i doing wrong?

On a fine day, 04-12-2003, alex0420198 wrote:

>Hi, I bought the "Big Box" and my EXS24 finally expired and I have the EXSP
>now. I had numerous Giga converted instruments that loaded in about 5-10
>sec. with EXS24 and now with EXSP it takes 3-4 min! I cannot allocate sample
>memory with OSX and when I try to play the GIGA samples, after they finally
>load, they pop horribly. Can the EXSP not handle large samples like the
>EXS24 could? I'm frustrated and confused and I feel like i got screwed! what
>am i doing wrong?

Have you upgraded to the very lastest Logic version (6.3.2) and 
switched on virtual memory in the EXS?
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Hendrik, I have logic audio, only platinum comes in 6.3.2 i have to stick with 
6.3.1. With the EXSP24 in the option menu there is no virtual memory setting 
as in the EXS24mkII. Emagic shipped me the AudioUnit version of EXSP24 
and for some strange reason it will only look for the samples in one 
place....USERS/SHARED/exsp24samples.
Is that wierd or what?
I read that the EXSP is only capable of loading EXS samples, The samples I 
load were converted from GIGA samples, so they are very large, but the 
EXS24mkII handled them fine, no latency or pops. MAN THIS SUCKS!

On a fine day, 04-12-2003, alex0420198 wrote:

>Hendrik, I have logic audio, only platinum comes in 6.3.2 i have to stick with
>6.3.1. With the EXSP24 in the option menu there is no virtual memory setting
>as in the EXS24mkII. Emagic shipped me the AudioUnit version of EXSP24
>and for some strange reason it will only look for the samples in one
>place....USERS/SHARED/exsp24samples.
>Is that wierd or what?

Well... I don't know if that's weird...  But how about putting an 
alias to your instruments folder inside the users/shared/exsp folder? 
Won't that work?

>I read that the EXSP is only capable of loading EXS samples,

You mean "EXS instruments" not "samples".  Samples are just audio 
files and not bound to any particular sampler.

>The samples I load were converted from GIGA samples, so they are 
>very large, but the EXS24mkII handled them fine, no latency or pops. 
>MAN THIS SUCKS!

Well, if the EXSP doesn't have virtual memory, then you're out of 
luck with large instruments indeed.  Or if it does in principle, then 
it's just a matter of waiting until Logic Audio also has the OSX / 
virtual memory bug fixed -- i.e. until Audio 6.3.2 is out.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

>Hi, I bought the "Big Box" and my EXS24 finally expired and I have the EXSP
>now. I had numerous Giga converted instruments that loaded in about 5-10
>sec. with EXS24 and now with EXSP it takes 3-4 min! I cannot allocate sample
>memory with OSX and when I try to play the GIGA samples, after they finally
>load, they pop horribly. Can the EXSP not handle large samples like the
>EXS24 could? I'm frustrated and confused and I feel like i got screwed! what
>am i doing wrong?

You have to run Project Manger's file-resolving routine (I forget the 
exact name). It will take many hours if you have  a lot of samples, 
but it will solve the slow loading problem.

A far better alternative is Redmatica's EXSManager, which does this 
less than a minute. www.redmatica.com
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Alex,

I think the problem is lack of disk streaming on the EXSP.  This EXS loaded
so fast because it wasn't trying to load all the samples into RAM.  The
EXSP, without virtual memory, is trying to load the whole thing, and the
pops are you overloading your system.  I've never seen an update to the EXSP
either, so whether the lack of vm on the EXSP was a designed limitation or a
bug (I think the former), I don't see your situation getting better unless
you upgrade to the EXS24.

If I'm wrong and you find another solution, let me know, because I have been
avoiding Giga instruments for that reason.

Gregory

From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:31:05 -0800
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: pianist666@...
Subject: [EXS] Re: EXspired! HELP!


>Hi, I bought the "Big Box" and my EXS24 finally expired and I have the EXSP
>now. I had numerous Giga converted instruments that loaded in about 5-10
>sec. with EXS24 and now with EXSP it takes 3-4 min! I cannot allocate sample
>memory with OSX and when I try to play the GIGA samples, after they finally
>load, they pop horribly. Can the EXSP not handle large samples like the
>EXS24 could? I'm frustrated and confused and I feel like i got screwed! what
>am i doing wrong?

You have to run Project Manger's file-resolving routine (I forget the
exact name). It will take many hours if you have  a lot of samples,
but it will solve the slow loading problem.

A far better alternative is Redmatica's EXSManager, which does this
less than a minute. www.redmatica.com
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

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On 12/4/03 10:02 AM, "alex0420198" <pianist666@...> wrote:

> 
> Hendrik, I have logic audio, only platinum comes in 6.3.2 i have to stick with
> 6.3.1. With the EXSP24 in the option menu there is no virtual memory setting
> as in the EXS24mkII. Emagic shipped me the AudioUnit version of EXSP24
> and for some strange reason it will only look for the samples in one
> place....USERS/SHARED/exsp24samples.
> Is that wierd or what?
> I read that the EXSP is only capable of loading EXS samples, The samples I
> load were converted from GIGA samples, so they are very large, but the
> EXS24mkII handled them fine, no latency or pops. MAN THIS SUCKS!
> 
Just put an Alias to your sample folder inside !
Or rename the alias of the folder of your samples to exsp24samples

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Cyril Blanc
France

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