EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello -

The soundsonline sale is tempting me...  ;-)

Anyone get any must-have samples from them?

Looking for suggestions of any type of sample for Emu,
EXS24, and Kontakt.

-- N

At 01:31 PM 12/23/2003, you wrote:
>Hello -
>
>The soundsonline sale is tempting me...  ;-)
>
>Anyone get any must-have samples from them?

Tough to narrow down. But of the libraries I have that I'd consider 
indispensable, I'd include Drumkit From Hell, all the SAM brass libraries, 
and the Post Bosendorfer.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Natalia Rakowski <goosefan@y...> 
wrote:
> Hello -
> 
> The soundsonline sale is tempting me...  ;-)
> 
> Anyone get any must-have samples from them?
> 
> Looking for suggestions of any type of sample for Emu,
> EXS24, and Kontakt.
> 
> -- N


picked up the quantum leap brass right before the sale.....awesome 
library if your interested in brass. also the scarbee's rhodes and 
wurlie is the definitive when it comes to these sets of 
keys...nothing touches them personally

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@j...> wrote:
> At 01:31 PM 12/23/2003, you wrote:
> >Hello -
> >
> >The soundsonline sale is tempting me...  ;-)
> >
> >Anyone get any must-have samples from them?
> 
> Tough to narrow down. But of the libraries I have that I'd consider 
> indispensable, I'd include Drumkit From Hell, all the SAM brass
libraries, 
> and the Post Bosendorfer.

The SAM brass samples are often mentioned in this newsgroup.  The
demos at Soundsonline seem to stress orchestral arrangements (at least
those I found).  Does anyone have experience with jazz, rock or pop
arrangements with the SAM brass?  Sax and trumpets in particular?  I'm
particularly interested in (1) how they sound "out of the box" and (2)
how easy they are to use out of the box (does one have to spend hours
tweaking, e.g.?).

A purchase I'll never regret (and on my "must have" list) is the
Steinway B EastWest from soundsonline.  Unfair customs duty (contrary,
as I understand, to the "free trade agreement", but how do you argue
with Customs?) to ship to Canada, major pain to import onto a Mac, and
needs a Gig of RAM, but worth every dollar and hour invested.  This
sample is indispensable in classical, jazz, rock and pop arrangements.
 Does anyone have both the SteinwayB and Bosendorfer?  Care to draw
any comparisons?

There's good nsbigkit freeware samples out there for drums.  Does
anyone have experience with both this set and drumkit from hell?  How
worthwhile it is to invest $100 or so in DFH?

Cheers,
Larry

At 06:54 PM 12/23/2003, you wrote:

>The SAM brass samples are often mentioned in this newsgroup.  The
>demos at Soundsonline seem to stress orchestral arrangements (at least
>those I found).  Does anyone have experience with jazz, rock or pop
>arrangements with the SAM brass?  Sax and trumpets in particular?  I'm
>particularly interested in (1) how they sound "out of the box" and (2)
>how easy they are to use out of the box (does one have to spend hours
>tweaking, e.g.?).

There are no SAM saxes, and since they seem to be an orchestrally-minded 
bunch, there may never be. SAM's stuff is sampled in a great sounding live 
hall, with quite a bit of ambience even on the close samples---too much for 
anything outside of orchestral arrangements, IMO.

I'm yet to be very impressed with any particular jazz or pop horn library, 
and find that to get decent results I have to carefully combine elements 
from my Quantum Leap Brass and older EMU and Roland brass and sax sample 
banks.

SAM Horns and Trombones are a piece of cake out of the box, while the more 
complex Trumpets have proved to be a bit difficult. I'm waiting for SAM's 
pending EXS24 release before diving all the way in.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@j...> wrote:
> At 06:54 PM 12/23/2003, you wrote:
> 
This is all good advice -- thanks.

I, too, find myself benchmarking everything against the old Roland
patches and samples (particularly sax and trumpet on my trusty U20 or
the freeware samples from the same boxes as sampled instruments).  I
figured I'd be the only one thinking this way in the presence of so
much modern technology :).  Guess not.  I need to fit sax and trumpet
solos and lines into my arrangements.  Sounds like SAM is not a fit. 
Is Quantum Leap better?

EXS release for SAM?  When?

Thanks, Larry
> 
> I'm yet to be very impressed with any particular jazz or pop horn
library, 
> and find that to get decent results I have to carefully combine
elements 
> from my Quantum Leap Brass and older EMU and Roland brass and sax
sample 
> banks.
> 
> SAM Horns and Trombones are a piece of cake out of the box, while
the more 
> complex Trumpets have proved to be a bit difficult. I'm waiting for
SAM's 
> pending EXS24 release before diving all the way in.

At 07:29 PM 12/23/2003, you wrote:
>   I need to fit sax and trumpet
>solos and lines into my arrangements.  Sounds like SAM is not a fit.
>Is Quantum Leap better?

 From a quality standpoint, SAM Trumpets is  better and more "modern" 
sample library than Quantum Leap---but Quantum Leap is still better suited 
to pop and jazz work.


>EXS release for SAM?  When?

Their website states the dedicated EXS versions will be released after NAMM 
in January.

From: "steinway03" <dr_l_music@...>

>The SAM brass samples are often mentioned in this newsgroup.  The
>demos at Soundsonline seem to stress orchestral arrangements (at least
>those I found).  Does anyone have experience with jazz, rock or pop
>arrangements with the SAM brass?  Sax and trumpets in particular?  I'm
>particularly interested in (1) how they sound "out of the box" and (2)
>how easy they are to use out of the box (does one have to spend hours
>tweaking, e.g.?).

No saxes in the library, these are orchestral samples. They sound 
fabulous out of the box, but they're not for horn section. Completely 
different sound - much purer. Quantum Leap Brass and the Roland 
library are the best I know of for horn section - they have all the 
doits, falls, quick dynamics, and generally hard, short attacks.

I don't own Sam Horns, by the way, but I have played them and am very 
impressed.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Hello folks,

greetings.


I am considering getting a a hammerfall multiface digital processor. Is it 
still useful with a g4 or  g5 powerbook computer, what do you think?

12/24/03 1:53 PM -0800 Nick Batzdorf  recording@... wrote:





Regards,

John Plum

Probably one of the best bits of kit I have ever bought!!!
Especially now they have rock solid drivers on OSX also.
Cheers

> I am considering getting a a hammerfall multiface digital processor. 
> Is it
> still useful with a g4 or  g5 powerbook computer, what do you think?
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Thanks, I thought so. I would like to hook up mics and possibly guitar 
pickup for hard disc  recording/playback.

Would the multiface do the job?.... and,

Is best to use a separate hard disc, even with RME's multiface? ..If so,

Is it a good idea chain the slave hard disc to the multiface somehow, if 
possible, or through the computer's buss ?

(I am looking for a lean, but powerful system).


12/27/03 11:33 AM +1030 Matt McKenzie-Smith  matt@... wrote:

> Probably one of the best bits of kit I have ever bought!!!
> Especially now they have rock solid drivers on OSX also.
> Cheers
>
>> I am considering getting a a hammerfall multiface digital processor.
>> Is it
>> still useful with a g4 or  g5 powerbook computer, what do you think?



Regards,

John Plum

"Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...> wrote:
> 
> I don't own Sam Horns, by the way, but I have played them and am very
> impressed.


YES YES YES !
Very good !


Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

Have anyone the new VSL OPUS 1 Orchestral collection? is so good as the 
"father"?

From: Juanje Luzardo <jluzardo@...>

>Have anyone the new VSL OPUS 1 Orchestral collection? is so good as the
>"father"?

I have the father, but the differences are that it's much smaller 
(far fewer programs and articulations), the samples are stretched 
over a whole tone instead of being samped every half step (like the 
Basic All programs in the father editions), and unless I'm mistaken 
there are fewer velocity layers.

They're still great samples, and you can't go wrong with it. Same 
with the EWQLSO smaller editions.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

> Have anyone the new VSL OPUS 1 Orchestral collection? is so good as the
> "father"?

About quality, yes

About number of samples and articulations, don't dream ! But you have far
more than what you pay for.

One example: in EXS demo CD Rom you have bass Drum with 1 to 4 upbeats,
great and useful !

In Opus 1 you have "only" single single strokes and tremolos.

You can simulate 4 upbeats, but...

We have to admit that for the price !!!!!

So go ahead and order it !

Sorry for my frenchy English

not so for heavy duty live usage since the connectors on the pcmcia card is
way too fragile.

> Probably one of the best bits of kit I have ever bought!!!
> Especially now they have rock solid drivers on OSX also.
> Cheers
 
>> I am considering getting a a hammerfall multiface digital processor.
>> Is it
>> still useful with a g4 or  g5 powerbook computer, what do you think?