EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Greetings everyone,

I know this has been covered before - I've searched for and read past
posts on how to set up multi-channel instruments, and I believe I've 
followed the directions correctly, but it still doesn't work.

Despite having: (1) set up a mutli-channel drums instrument (e.g.,
kicks group set to EXSP main output, snares to output 3-4, toms 
to 5-6, etc.); (2) chosen Multi Channel EXSP24 in the Instrument 
object; and (3) set up the Aux objects to receive input from 
the various EXSP outputs, it seems that regardless of the output
channel settings in the instrument, ALL the samples are output only 
through the channel pair selected in the Options menu of the 
multi-channel EXSP24 instance. From that menu I can select 
outputs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, or 7-8, and the selected pair are the channels
that output all the drums, ignoring the instrument's group settings.

I'd really like to get multi-channel drums happening soon, any advice
is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Arch

G4/733, 896MB, 40GB/40GB
OS X 10.2.8
Logic Audio 6.3.1
EXSP24 v1.0 Audio Unit

I posted this a few weeks back. I really need help with this. Please! 
Thanks!
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Greetings everyone,

I know this has been covered before - I've searched for and read past
posts on how to set up multi-channel instruments, and I believe I've
followed the directions correctly, but it still doesn't work.

Despite having: (1) set up a mutli-channel drums instrument (e.g.,
kicks group set to main output, snares to output 3-4, toms
to 5-6, etc.); (2) chosen Multi Channel EXSP24 in the Instrument
object; and (3) set up the Aux objects to receive input from
the various EXSP outputs, it seems that regardless of the group output
channel settings, ALL the samples are output only through the channel 
pair selected in the Options menu of the multi-channel EXSP24 instance. 
From that menu I can select outputs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, or 7-8, and the 
selected pair are the channels that output all the drums, ignoring the 
instrument's group settings.
 
I'd really like to get multi-channel drums happening soon, any advice
is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Arch

G4/733, 896MB
OS X 10.2.8
Logic Audio 6.3.1
EXSP24 v1.0 Audio Unit

From: "geetar67" <geetar67@...>

>Despite having: (1) set up a mutli-channel drums instrument (e.g.,
>kicks group set to main output, snares to output 3-4, toms
>to 5-6, etc.); (2) chosen Multi Channel EXSP24 in the Instrument
>object; and (3) set up the Aux objects to receive input from
>the various EXSP outputs, it seems that regardless of the group output
>channel settings, ALL the samples are output only through the channel
>pair selected in the Options menu of the multi-channel EXSP24 instance.
>>From that menu I can select outputs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, or 7-8, and the
>selected pair are the channels that output all the drums, ignoring the
>instrument's group settings.
>
>I'd really like to get multi-channel drums happening soon, any advice
>is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

That's the way to set it up, but it could be that EXS24p has some 
problems or that the song file you're using has become corrupted - or 
Logic prefs, etc. You might also try setting it up again within the 
same session, because Logic often needs a kick in the ass to open up 
audio channels that for whatever reason have become closed.

Another thing that could work - although it shouldn't - is to try 
setting all the Zones in each Group to the output you want, not just 
the Group output.

Be aware that even if you get the instruments to come out individual 
outs, the mixer's channel fader will affect the entire 
AudioInstrument. You can still use the Aux or Output faders to adjust 
levels, but cc11 seems much easier.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@e...> wrote:
>   From: "geetar67" <geetar67@y...>
> 
> >Despite having: (1) set up a mutli-channel drums instrument (e.g.,
> >kicks group set to main output, snares to output 3-4, toms
> >to 5-6, etc.); (2) chosen Multi Channel EXSP24 in the Instrument
> >object; and (3) set up the Aux objects to receive input from
> >the various EXSP outputs, it seems that regardless of the group output
> >channel settings, ALL the samples are output only through the channel
> >pair selected in the Options menu of the multi-channel EXSP24 instance.
> >>From that menu I can select outputs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, or 7-8, and the
> >selected pair are the channels that output all the drums, ignoring the
> >instrument's group settings.
> >
> >I'd really like to get multi-channel drums happening soon, any advice
> >is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> That's the way to set it up, but it could be that EXS24p has some 
> problems or that the song file you're using has become corrupted - or 
> Logic prefs, etc. You might also try setting it up again within the 
> same session, because Logic often needs a kick in the ass to open up 
> audio channels that for whatever reason have become closed.
> 
> Another thing that could work - although it shouldn't - is to try 
> setting all the Zones in each Group to the output you want, not just 
> the Group output.
> 
> Be aware that even if you get the instruments to come out individual 
> outs, the mixer's channel fader will affect the entire 
> AudioInstrument. You can still use the Aux or Output faders to adjust 
> levels, but cc11 seems much easier.
> -- 
> 
> Nick Batzdorf
> 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

NIck, thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out. I'm actually trying to set it up in 
Autoload, not an existing song. I did previously try setting the zones' output in 
addition to the groups, but it didn't solve the problem.

Just to be clear about your last comment - you mean that the fader for the 
AudioInstrument object's channel will affect the levels of the other outs, akin to a 
post-fader bus send? Or something else? Also, I've never used cc11, how would you 
use it in this case?

Thanks again,
Arch

>  > Be aware that even if you get the instruments to come out individual
>>  outs, the mixer's channel fader will affect the entire
>>  AudioInstrument. You can still use the Aux or Output faders to adjust
>  > levels, but cc11 seems much easier.

"geetar67" <geetar67@...>

>Just to be clear about your last comment - you mean that the fader for the
>AudioInstrument object's channel will affect the levels of the other 
>outs, akin to a
>post-fader bus send? Or something else?

Yes, if you have 8 AI channels (for 8 outs) in your Audio layer, all 
eight will move together if you move one of them.

>Also, I've never used cc11, how would you
>use it in this case?

Just like the mod wheel or any other controller. If your keyboard has 
a slider that sends a different MIDI cc, you can Transform it in the 
Environment if necessary. EXS comes pre-wired to respond to cc11.
-- 
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Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 590-9101