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2004-04-25 by Per Larsson
Just wanted to tell you that the bug in the 24 bit version of the White Grand is now fixed, with the great help from Garth Hjelte at Rubber Chicken and Andrea Gozzi from Redmatica. Best, Per Larsson www.sampletekk.com
2004-04-25 by James Ryan
Per- That was it. It now works great. What a sweet sound! I've been using an old Kurzweil 2500 for sampled piano, and while it was good in it's day, no comparison here! I do share your frustration with EXS's inability to intelligently handle note off samples. I really couldn't use the White Grand with release samples because 1) I'm using a Korg Trinity as keyboard controller that seems to send a uniform note-off midi velocity of 64 as opposed to the actual velocity generated by my hands on the keys and 2) the EXS triggers the note offs when I let go of the keys even though I'm holding down the sustain pedal. If it's a quiet chord and I lift my hands you hear a big damper noise as the chord continues to ring out. We have been asking Emagic to fix this for some time. I wonder what's going on over there. If you read the Logic forum, you'll find that an overwhelming majority of us favor fixing all the bugs in Logic as opposed to continually cranking out new features. To date, the requests seem to be falling on deaf ears. Instead we get Logic Pro (6.4) which is identical to Logic 6.3.3 only you get all the virtual instruments which I already paid excessively for, and a new startup splash screen. If you feel ambitious, you might try writing to them and explaining how the EXS really needs this note off update if it's going to compete with the Giga Studio. I have many libraries now that use this feature, but can't be implemented correctly in the EXS. Anyway, many thanks for your efforts, I'm a very happy customer, and I plan to post (if you don't mind) a quick synopsis of the last 24 hours to the Logic and EXS forums so everybody can read a testimonial of what incredible product support looks like. Best regards, James Ryan
> From: Per Larsson <per@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:04:14 +0200 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [EXS] White Grand - White Noise fixed! > > Just wanted to tell you that the bug in the 24 bit version of the White > Grand is now fixed, with the great help from Garth Hjelte at Rubber > Chicken and Andrea Gozzi from Redmatica. > > Best, > Per Larsson > www.sampletekk.com > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2004-04-25 by Per Larsson
Hi James.
Glad that it works!
Btw, the releasesamples shouldnt sound when you have sustainpedal down!
It was another small bug, and it has now been taken care of!
Just visit the White Grand resource page at www.sampletekk.com
<http://www.sampletekk.com/> and download the updated White Grand.exs
file.
If you would like to post your opinions in the forums, I wouldnt mind
at all! Specially since they are positive!!!!
Best,
Per
www.sampletekk.com
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Från: James Ryan [mailto:jeryan@...]
Skickat: den 25 april 2004 21:36
Till: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Ämne: Re: [EXS] White Grand - White Noise fixed!
Per-
That was it. It now works great. What a sweet sound! I've been using
an
old Kurzweil 2500 for sampled piano, and while it was good in it's day,
no
comparison here!
I do share your frustration with EXS's inability to intelligently handle
note off samples. I really couldn't use the White Grand with release
samples because 1) I'm using a Korg Trinity as keyboard controller that
seems to send a uniform note-off midi velocity of 64 as opposed to the
actual velocity generated by my hands on the keys and 2) the EXS
triggers
the note offs when I let go of the keys even though I'm holding down the
sustain pedal. If it's a quiet chord and I lift my hands you hear a big
damper noise as the chord continues to ring out. We have been asking
Emagic
to fix this for some time. I wonder what's going on over there. If you
read the Logic forum, you'll find that an overwhelming majority of us
favor
fixing all the bugs in Logic as opposed to continually cranking out new
features. To date, the requests seem to be falling on deaf ears.
Instead
we get Logic Pro (6.4) which is identical to Logic 6.3.3 only you get
all
the virtual instruments which I already paid excessively for, and a new
startup splash screen.
If you feel ambitious, you might try writing to them and explaining how
the
EXS really needs this note off update if it's going to compete with the
Giga
Studio. I have many libraries now that use this feature, but can't be
implemented correctly in the EXS.
Anyway, many thanks for your efforts, I'm a very happy customer, and I
plan
to post (if you don't mind) a quick synopsis of the last 24 hours to the
Logic and EXS forums so everybody can read a testimonial of what
incredible
product support looks like.
Best regards,
James Ryan
> From: Per Larsson <per@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:04:14 +0200
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [EXS] White Grand - White Noise fixed!
>
> Just wanted to tell you that the bug in the 24 bit version of the
White
> Grand is now fixed, with the great help from Garth Hjelte at Rubber
> Chicken and Andrea Gozzi from Redmatica.
>
> Best,
> Per Larsson
> www.sampletekk.com
>
>
>
>
>
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2004-04-25 by Eli Krantzberg
on one very special day, James Ryan at jeryan@... wrote: > Per- > That was it. It now works great. Just out of curiosity (as a passive observer of this thread); what was the solution? -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
2004-04-26 by Garth Hjelte
At 07:48 PM 4/25/04 -0400, you wrote: >on one very special day, James Ryan at jeryan@... wrote: > > > Per- > > That was it. It now works great. > > >Just out of curiosity (as a passive observer of this thread); what was the >solution? An .exs file holds some information about the sample, more than just the file name, and the engine pays attention to that rather than what is in the sample. You can try this yourself - create a new .exs instrument, add a zone, and assign a 16-bit sample to that zone. Shut down EXS (and Logic or whatever) and change that sample in an sample editor to a 24-bit sample. Reopen EXS and play that original Instrument. Noise... It's because the .exs file holds bit information, and that's what the engine is instructed to recognize the sample as, regardless of the information that is in the sample. So swapping samples is not a fool-proof operation when it comes to EXS. It is with most other software samplers, but not EXS. Garth Hjelte Sampler User
2004-04-26 by Eli Krantzberg
on one very special day, Garth Hjelte at garth@... wrote: > swapping samples is not a fool-proof operation when it comes to EXS. It > is with most other software samplers, but not EXS. Interesting; good to know. Thanks. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
2004-04-26 by James Ryan
For those who were following the string "White Grand = White Noise" over the weekend, I just wanted to post a quick synopsis of what happened because I think it deserves mention. I bought the White Grand, a very impressive virtual piano from Sampletekk, newly ported to EXS. It didn't work. It just produced white noise. I emailed Per Larsson at Sampletekk to see what could be done. I had done the sample re-link after the installation using Redmatica's ExsManager. I emailed Per personally, but my email accidentally got forwarded to the EXS forum. It was Saturday at around 5PM EST. Less than an hour later, I had received emails from Per, Andrea at Redmatica, and Garth from Rubber Chicken Software (Translator - the program I believe did the original conversion from White Grand Gigga to EXS). Not only were they in contact with me, they were in contact with each other, back and forth for hours, painstakingly trouble shooting the problem. The Europeans, Per & Andrea, from Sweden & Italy respectively were up until 2AM their time on a Saturday night working on this, (Garth is in MN so he's actually an hour earlier than me) and together they found the cause of the problem and the solution. With the jointly achieved solution, Per fixed the White Grand and posted it to my site, Andrea added a feature in EXSManager to insure the problem wouldn't happen with any future re-links and emailed me the new program. All the while, Garth communicated with them and added his digital expertise to ultimately trouble shoot and clear up the problem. I have never in my life seen this kind of product support. It was completely above and beyond the call of duty and immeasurably appreciated. We're talking bug fixing when they should have been kicking back with their friends and families and relaxing. Can you imagine this kind of attention to customer relations from Emagic? Motu? Apple? I hope they're reading this. I just want to give these guys a very well deserved plug here. Their programs are state of the art, their support is beyond anything I've seen in this business, and IMHO they deserve our support. If you own and use the EXS, these programs are a must and now you know you're in good hands if you buy them: The White Grand (piano) - Sampletekk - Per Larsson - http://www.sampletekk.com/ ExsManager - Redmatica - Andrea Gozzi - http://www.redmatica.com Translator - Rubber Chicken Software - Garth Hjelte - http://www.chickensys.com Best to all, James Ryan http://www.rampagemusic.net
2004-04-26 by James Ryan
> Subject: SV: [EXS] White Grand - White Noise fixed! > > Hi James. > > Glad that it works! > Btw, the releasesamples shouldnt sound when you have sustainpedal down! > It was another small bug, and it has now been taken care of! > Just visit the White Grand resource page at www.sampletekk.com > <http://www.sampletekk.com/> and download the updated White Grand.exs > file. Couldn't find it on your site. Could you email me an exact link to it? > If you would like to post your opinions in the forums, I wouldnt mind > at all! Specially since they are positive!!!! Just posted a review to the Logic and EXS forums. Best, James
2004-04-26 by Per Larsson
Btw, do you have the url to the forums where you posted this? /Per Just posted a review to the Logic and EXS forums. Best, James