EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hey I just started messing arround with the Wizoo Latin Percussion 24 EXS version.  But on 
a lot of the EXS instruments, when I load them, EXS says that it cant find some of the AIF 
files in the instrument.  At first I thought that I forgot to copy some of the samples over 
but then when I searched my HD for the files it said were missing, they were already there.  
So then I checked the EXS instrument files to see if the Wizoo people programmed them 
wrong but the file names are all correct.  So in the instrument editor I tried manually going 
through all the zones and reloading the files (even though all of them already had the 
correct file names) and it worked.  However a lot of the instruments have tons of velocity 
layers (e.g. congas) and that would mean I would have to do that for like 40 or more 
zones per instrument.

So basically my question is this: is there any way to have Logic re-search all the targeted 
files in an instrument?

I thought it searched for the files everytime an instrument is loaded.  I guess I was wrong 
or otherwise this shouldnt be happening.

Thanks in advanced.
---------
Dual 2.0Ghz G5/1.5GB RAM/Logic Plat 6.3.3

Short of you buying that EXS Manager software which reassociates samples to
zones apparently fairly quickly, or using the dead-slow project manager (I
still haven't figured that thing out -- I'm new to logic 6), here is a
sloppy but effective solution. It's a pain in the arse, but it works:

Find just THE FIRST sample, save the EXS instrument and then, QUIT AND
REBOOT LOGIC. When the EXS instrument that you just did this trick to loads
in, it'll now know where all the samples are. The smart thing to do is to
load in ALL the instrument you think you'll need, do the first (or any one)
sample "reunion", then save ALL those instruments. Upon rebooting, they ALL
should load in fine.

Emagic, you REALLY need to solve this long-standing problem :-(

Get Redmatica's ExsManager.  http://www.redmatica.com   I believe (as of
yesterday) the new version has a function that corrects exactly the problem
you're talking about.  This program is essential for any library as it
drastically reduces the EXS load time, especially with big libraries.  It
re-links files so fast if you blink, it's done.  I just bought the White
Grand with over 3000 samples and who knows how many keygroups with 32
velocity layers.  It relinked all files in 13 seconds.  Project Manager
would have taken many hours and probably not fixed the problem you're
talking about here.

James

> From: Todd <maximillianv@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:54:40 +0000
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [EXS] Samples on the HD not loading into Inst!!!
> 
> Hey I just started messing arround with the Wizoo Latin Percussion 24 EXS
> version.  But on 
> a lot of the EXS instruments, when I load them, EXS says that it cant find
> some of the AIF 
> files in the instrument.  At first I thought that I forgot to copy some of the
> samples over 
> but then when I searched my HD for the files it said were missing, they were
> already there.  
> So then I checked the EXS instrument files to see if the Wizoo people
> programmed them 
> wrong but the file names are all correct.  So in the instrument editor I tried
> manually going 
> through all the zones and reloading the files (even though all of them already
> had the 
> correct file names) and it worked.  However a lot of the instruments have tons
> of velocity 
> layers (e.g. congas) and that would mean I would have to do that for like 40
> or more 
> zones per instrument.
> 
> So basically my question is this: is there any way to have Logic re-search all
> the targeted 
> files in an instrument?
> 
> I thought it searched for the files everytime an instrument is loaded.  I
> guess I was wrong
> or otherwise this shouldnt be happening.
> 
> Thanks in advanced.
> ---------
> Dual 2.0Ghz G5/1.5GB RAM/Logic Plat 6.3.3
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Thanks for both of the suggestions.  I haven't tried the one where you load just the first 
sample.  But I did download the demo of EXS Manager.  It worked great.  It was a little 
annoying that it could only do 40 instruments at a time... but hey it was free.  Great 
software though.  And the AutoSampler looks pretty interesting.

Im gonna go back to re patching everything... 40 or less instruments at a time... Its a good 
thing I already had all my inst files meticulously (read anally) organized.  It makes it way 
easier.

Thanks again.

On Apr 26, 2004, at 9:52 PM, Todd wrote:

> Thanks for both of the suggestions.  I haven't tried the one where you 
> load just the first
>  sample.  But I did download the demo of EXS Manager.  It worked 
> great.  It was a little
>  annoying that it could only do 40 instruments at a time... but hey it 
> was free.  Great
>  software though.  And the AutoSampler looks pretty interesting.

Where can I find the EXS Manager?

Thanks
Dennis

At 10:26 PM 4/26/04 -0700, you wrote:


>On Apr 26, 2004, at 9:52 PM, Todd wrote:
>
> > Thanks for both of the suggestions.  I haven't tried the one where you
> > load just the first
> >  sample.  But I did download the demo of EXS Manager.  It worked
> > great.  It was a little
> >  annoying that it could only do 40 instruments at a time... but hey it
> > was free.  Great
> >  software though.  And the AutoSampler looks pretty interesting.
>
>Where can I find the EXS Manager?

Well, www.exsmanager.com =) or www.redmatica.com



Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

> 
>> Thanks for both of the suggestions.  I haven't tried the one where you
>> load just the first
>>  sample.  But I did download the demo of EXS Manager.  It worked
>> great.  It was a little
>>  annoying that it could only do 40 instruments at a time... but hey it
>> was free.  Great
>>  software though.  And the AutoSampler looks pretty interesting.
> 
> Where can I find the EXS Manager?
> 
> Thanks
> Dennis

http://Www.redmatica.com

In a message dated 4/27/04 3:40:08 PM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Find just THE FIRST sample, save the EXS instrument and then, QUIT AND
> REBOOT LOGIC. When the EXS instrument that you just did this trick to loads
> in, it'll now know where all the samples are. The smart thing to do is to
> load in ALL the instrument you think you'll need, do the first (or any one)
> sample "reunion", then save ALL those instruments. Upon rebooting, they ALL
> should load in fine.
> 
> Emagic, you REALLY need to solve this long-standing problem :-(
> 

I second that.   While I think Redmatica is a wonderful piece of software I 
think its unfair for those that maybe CANT afford it to basically HAVE to buy 
it to get Logic to do what Logic should ALREADY be able to do and that is 
simply this:   Load samples in a quick and efficient manner.   I have some 
libraries that have had to be reinstalled so many times its rediculous...

-Terry Michael
www.Music4TheMovies.com


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