EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I'm using Logic Audio 6.3.1 with EXSP24.  I have a huge set of sounds (several thousand 
instruments) on a Lacie Firewire drive.  All of the .exs instrument files were installed within 
the folder that also held the samples for each instrument.  That setup worked fine on a 
Logic Platinum system.  All that was needed was an alias in the Logic 6 Series folder 
pointing to the folder on the Lacie.  It doesn't work that way with this system.  When I 
don't have the Lacie plugged in, the autoload takes about 30-45 seconds to load up.  
When I plug it in, it takes literally over 30 minutes to load up.  I have tried duplicating the 
directory structure, removing the audio files (leaving only the .exs files), moving those into 
my Logic 6 Series folder or Shared folder.  Both cause greater-than-30 minute load times.
What's going on??  I know this shouldn't be a problem...

>I'm using Logic Audio 6.3.1 with EXSP24.  I have a huge set of 
>sounds (several thousand
>instruments) on a Lacie Firewire drive.  All of the .exs instrument 
>files were installed within
>the folder that also held the samples for each instrument.  That 
>setup worked fine on a
>Logic Platinum system.  All that was needed was an alias in the 
>Logic 6 Series folder
>pointing to the folder on the Lacie.  It doesn't work that way with 
>this system.  When I
>don't have the Lacie plugged in, the autoload takes about 30-45 
>seconds to load up. 
>When I plug it in, it takes literally over 30 minutes to load up.  I 
>have tried duplicating the
>directory structure, removing the audio files (leaving only the .exs 
>files), moving those into
>my Logic 6 Series folder or Shared folder.  Both cause 
>greater-than-30 minute load times.
>What's going on??  I know this shouldn't be a problem...

Does your Autoload have the Project Manager open in one of the 
screensets? The PM is a *dog* and can take ages to finish doing its 
thing. The answer is to create a new autoload without it.

EXSmanager is also very useful in reducing load times.....

Regards - Colin

> Does your Autoload have the Project Manager open in one of the 
> screensets? The PM is a *dog* and can take ages to finish doing its 
> thing. The answer is to create a new autoload without it.
> 
> EXSmanager is also very useful in reducing load times.....
> 
> Regards - Colin

Colin-

I'm using Logic Audio 6.3.1.  Only the Platinum or Pro versions have the PM.  I don't.  I did 
buy the EXS Manager and am working on it right now.  But I can't figure out where to put 
my Sampler instrument files.  Logic (EXSP24) won't recognize them in the Logic 6 Series 
folder or in the Shared folder (not the shared folder in my home directory, the actual 
Shared folder just under Users, which is where my EXSPFactorySoundset is located).

Anyone know where it should go????  Library/Application Support/Emagic/  perhaps???

Samples can be anywhere. Logic searches for them. that's what takes so darn long when 
you first open an instrument to play it. Logic is searching all the necessary paths for the 
samples. What takes so long at startup could be related to your "missing samples" 
problem.

I think there is a pref in EXS options, that you can change if sample searching should be on 
External, Local, or Both or something like that. You might try di**ing with that and seeing 
what happens.

Also if you have any instruments with samples in your autoload that might be what's 
taking so long. Especially with third party plug-ins like Kontakt, AU-VST conversions, and 
the old EXSP24 (the worst and slowest loader of all softsynths).

Evan Evans

> Samples can be anywhere. Logic searches for them. that's what 
> takes so darn long when 
> you first open an instrument to play it. Logic is searching 
> all the necessary paths for the 
> samples. What takes so long at startup could be related to 
> your "missing samples" 
> problem.
> 
> I think there is a pref in EXS options, that you can change 
> if sample searching should be on 
> External, Local, or Both or something like that. You might 
> try di**ing with that and seeing 
> what happens.
> 
> Also if you have any instruments with samples in your 
> autoload that might be what's 
> taking so long. Especially with third party plug-ins like 
> Kontakt, AU-VST conversions, and 
> the old EXSP24 (the worst and slowest loader of all softsynths).
> 
> Evan Evans


EXSManager from Redmatica.com solves this problem easily.  It goes out and
relinks your EXS instruments to the correct samples and ends the searching
everytime they load.  Cuts down load time dramatically.  It is also
extremely fast at the relink process, usually only seconds, unlike Project
Manager.

J