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Anyone using Gigastudio samples on EXS-24?

Anyone using Gigastudio samples on EXS-24?

2004-11-10 by benbidlack

Greetings to the Group, 

Is anyone out there using the EXS-24 (mk II) to play back Gigastudio 
samples/libraries. I have a lot of Gigastudio samples and am 
thinking of translating them (via Chicken Systems Translator) to the 
EXS format, and just using them in Logic Pro 7. It sure would be 
nice to having everything in one machine.

But i'm concerned about whether Logic can handle the larger samples 
without latency and/or performance problems.

I guess another choice is to translate everything in to Halion. OR 
just keep using a separate PC for Gigastudio, which is pretty much a 
pain.

Any thoughts and/or experience related to this?

Many thanks,
Benjamin

Re: [EXS] Anyone using Gigastudio samples on EXS-24?

2004-11-10 by Eli Krantzberg

On Nov 9, 2004, at 8:51 PM, benbidlack wrote:

>  Is anyone out there using the EXS-24 (mk II) to play back Gigastudio
>  samples/libraries. I have a lot of Gigastudio samples and am
>  thinking of translating them (via Chicken Systems Translator) to the
>  EXS format, and just using them in Logic Pro 7. It sure would be
>  nice to having everything in one machine.
>
>  But i'm concerned about whether Logic can handle the larger samples
>  without latency and/or performance problems.

As with translating any sampler format to another, you lose some of the 
programming due to different feature sets available on the different 
samplers. It's never perfect. Having said that, in my experience most 
Giga to EXS conversions work very well. With the more modern larger 
libraries however, you'll lose things such as triggering release 
samples. Although key switching seems to translate pretty well.

As far as larger samples, the disc streaming works very well in Logic 
with the EXS 24. Latency will not be an issue of sample size or amount; 
but related to other factors involving sound cards and buffer settings, 
etc. As far as performance; these machines have a finite amount they 
can do. As you tax them more heavily, something has got to give 
somewhere. Either buffers go up, or you freeze or bounce some tracks, 
or bus or subgroup out more plugins, etc.

I should qualify my above observations with the fact that my 
experiences with Giga to EXS conversions have all been through the 
built in EXS conversion routines. I haven't used Translator for the 
conversions. It's possible it will convert more of the parameters than 
the native conversion does. I doubt it, but I don't know for sure.


--------
Eli Krantzberg
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
Almat Productions



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Re: [EXS] Anyone using Gigastudio samples on EXS-24?

2004-11-10 by Julie Larson

>  With the more modern larger
>  libraries however, you'll lose things such as triggering release
>  samples. Although key switching seems to translate pretty well.
>
>

I'm not sure this is correct.  I need to check this again my memory 
fails here but I think triggering release samples does work.  It just 
doesn't translate correctly.  The samples are translated but it 
requires a little monkeying in the EXS instrument.  setting a group to 
trigger on key release and the decay has to be set to something other 
than 0?   something like that.   Yes...key switching works swimmingly.

julie


www.julielarson.net

Re: Anyone using Gigastudio samples on EXS-24?

2004-11-10 by jfifieldus

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "benbidlack" <bb@b...> wrote:

> Is anyone out there using the EXS-24 (mk II) to play back Gigastudio 
> samples/libraries. I have a lot of Gigastudio samples and am 
> thinking of translating them (via Chicken Systems Translator) to the 
> EXS format, and just using them in Logic Pro 7. It sure would be 
> nice to having everything in one machine.
> 
> But i'm concerned about whether Logic can handle the larger samples 
> without latency and/or performance problems.
> 
> I guess another choice is to translate everything in to Halion. OR 
> just keep using a separate PC for Gigastudio, which is pretty much a 
> pain.

I have successfully converted and used Giga format samples with the 
both the EXS24 and EXS24 mkII without the need for any other 
translation software.  I have experienced an occasional freeze-up, 
crackling or had a sound cut off prematurely when running some Giga 
samples, but I've also had similar experiences with other, more EXS-
friendly sample formats when my CPU reached the limit of its 
capabilities.

John F.

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