EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Had exactly the same problem - am trying to find the same answer!!

G4 Dual 1.42ghs
1GB
Os 10.3.6 
L 6

Gareth Hemmings

On 1/12/04 6:39 am, "exs-users@yahoogroups.com" <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
> Subject: The Old Lady Piano
> 
> Hello gang,
> 
> I received the EXS24 version of The Old Lady Piano today, and I've got
> good and bad feelings. Good because it looks like a killer piano, bad
> because I can't hear it! It seems that even for the 16 bit version, 2
> Gb of ram is not enough?!!! I was under the impression that 2Gb was
> enough for the lower bit version. Also, I tried loading the down pedal
> version only, and I got a message telling that EXS can't find the first
> sample, A0. Is anyone successfully using The Old Lady in Logic, and if
> so, how much ram do you have, and where have you placed the 2 folders
> named, "OLD LADY final compressed.wve", and "old lady release.wve"?*
> 
> My setup: Dual 2Ghz, 2Gb of RAM, OS 10.3.5, Logic 7.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Gareth,

I just posted this morning about a solution that worked for me - did 
you not read it?

Begin forwarded message:

> After reading Michiel Post's directions on Northern Sounds, I used
> EXSManager to clean up my EXS directory and can now play The Old Lady
> piano.

If you want the details, go here and scroll half-way down the page:

http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=226754



On Dec 1, 2004, at 14:40, Gareth Hemmings wrote:

> Had exactly the same problem - am trying to find the same answer!!
>



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Hi,
Just ran a few tests with various configurations. I unplugged some 
memory chips from my G5 and The Old Lady loaded and played fine with 
as little as 1 GB of RAM (OSX 10.3). I didn't try 500 MB though.  So 
memory requirement is as stated on the webpages: 1 GB.

The other issue: real-time pedalling means you can move the pedal up 
and down while you play and that the sound crossfades between pedal 
up and pedal sound in real time. This is done by layereing the two 
samples (one for up and one for down state of the pedal) and let the 
pedal control the volume of the layers. Since this methods uses 2 
samples for each key (and one for the release sample) you would end 
up playing 3 samples for each key, limiting your polyphony to max. 31 
notes. I did not program this feature in the EXS24 version because of 
this polyphony issue and the fact that no smooth crossfade can be 
made between the two layers. Switching the pedal results in a brutal 
change of sound. No doubt somebody can come up with a smooth 
crossfade environment but I was not able to set this up in EXS24. In 
the EXTRA instruments files folder you can find some programs that 
behave this way, but the result is not 100%. 

Naturally the normal on/off behaviour of standard piano samples is 
supported in all our libraries; when you press the sustain pedal you 
will trigger sustain pedal down samples. When the pedal is up you 
trigger the pedal up samples.

Michiel,

> you would end 
> up playing 3 samples for each key, limiting your polyphony to max. 31
> notes.

Let's forget about real-time pedaling for a minute. The Old Lady has a
polyphony limit? In normal use, what is old Lady's maximum polyphony? I just
assumed that maximum polyphony was only limited by the amount of memory and
available cpu horsepower. Please explain.

Regards,
-Mark

> From: Mark Falchook <falchook@...>
> Reply-To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:56:13 -0500
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [EXS] Old Lady Polyphony?
> 
> 
> 
> Michiel,
> 
>> you would end 
>> up playing 3 samples for each key, limiting your polyphony to max. 31
>> notes.
> 
> Let's forget about real-time pedaling for a minute. The Old Lady has a
> polyphony limit? In normal use, what is old Lady's maximum polyphony? I just
> assumed that maximum polyphony was only limited by the amount of memory and
> available cpu horsepower. Please explain.
> 
> Regards,
> -Mark

The polyphony is determined by the EXS, not The Old Lady.  TOL is just
another EXS instrument like a tuba or a thunderclap effect.  Currently the
limit appears to be 64 notes.

James