EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hey everyone- Happy holidays!   

I just installed the Old LAdy and I   HAVE to be missing something.   It 
sounds filtered.   I mean really filtered.   It sounds rather lifeless as well.   
I put it up against IVORY and there is No comparison.   Ivory sounds great.   
Now does anyone have a setting for the exs24 that works well with the old 
lady?   My settings HAVE to be off but I zeroed my Exs and it still dont help 
much. :(

-T


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Hi Terry,

On 26-Dec-04, at 2:33 AM, Huud@... wrote:

> Hey everyone- Happy holidays!  
>
>  I just installed the Old LAdy and I   HAVE to be missing something.   
> It
>  sounds filtered.   I mean really filtered.   It sounds rather 
> lifeless as well.  
>  I put it up against IVORY and there is No comparison.   Ivory sounds 
> great.  
>  Now does anyone have a setting for the exs24 that works well with the 
> old
>  lady?   My settings HAVE to be off but I zeroed my Exs and it still 
> dont help
>  much. :(

You have probably done this but have you switched off the filter in 
exs-24?  Have you disabled any of the modulation routings in exs-24?  
Have you opened up the exs-24 editor and selected the sample in one of 
the zones?  You can go directly to the sample and play it back in the 
finder window that pops up.  I use that sometimes to see if the sample 
is okay but there is something wrong with my exs-24 patch.  I remember 
reading about some people requiring to use Exs Manager from Redmatica 
in order to fix some problems in the Old Lady for exs-24.  If I'm not 
mistaken there is a free limited version that will allow you to fix a 
problem with white noise playing back (I might be wrong).  If what I 
suggested does not work, you should contact PMI directly (Michiel Post) 
for some help.  I have the Old Lady (in Kontakt format) and it is truly 
wonderful with lots of character.  It will probably sound quite 
different from Ivory but it should still sound great.

HTH,
Fernstudio


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On 28/12/2004, at 3:43 AM, Fernstudio wrote:

> I have the Old Lady (in Kontakt format) and it is truly
>  wonderful with lots of character.

I'd be very interested to hear a comparison.

Anyone who owns both prepared to give an opinion?

Andris

On 27 Dec 2004, at 01:37, T wrote:

> I just installed the Old LAdy and I   HAVE to be missing something.   
> It
> sounds filtered.   I mean really filtered.   It sounds rather lifeless 
> as well.
> I put it up against IVORY and there is No comparison.   Ivory sounds 
> great.
> Now does anyone have a setting for the exs24 that works well with the 
> old
> lady?   My settings HAVE to be off but I zeroed my Exs and it still 
> dont help
> much. :(
>
> -T
>
Mine sounds OK, rather good...I might have a tin ear though.
It is very soft. I needed to insert a gainer plug to reach acceptable 
output level.
Is that true for others?

M

Michael McKenzie Music Services
http://homepage.mac.com/michaelmckenzie/Menu3.html


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On 28/12/2004, at 12:05 PM, Michael McKenzie wrote:

>
>  Mine sounds OK, rather good...I might have a tin ear though.
>  It is very soft. I needed to insert a gainer plug to reach acceptable
>  output level.
>  Is that true for others?

Michael,

I've found the Old Lady to be considerably softer than other samples 
and audio instruments. I thought it might be due to some error I made 
in setting it up but I can't imagine what, then I'm relatively new to 
the EXS.

Anyone have suggestions?

Andris

On 28.12.2004, at 08:23, Andris Sice wrote:

>>  Mine sounds OK, rather good...I might have a tin ear though.
>>  It is very soft. I needed to insert a gainer plug to reach acceptable
>>  output level.
>>  Is that true for others?


To get the full dynamic range they took the loudest sound a player can 
produce as an upper limit for recording. You need a really good master 
keyboard to utilize that huge headroom. If you hammer on a cheap, 
unweighted synth- or controller keyboard to produce a velocity of 127 
with 10 fingers you might destroy the instrument :)

You can test the available range: go to the score editor, write two 
chords of 10 notes each and let them loop. Raise the velocity of all 
notes to 127. The level meter goes up just below 0 dB depending on the 
notes. Now add a sustain pedal and you are slightly over: they gave us 
the maximum they could.

Of course, for daily use the Old Lady is too soft and if you are not a 
trained pianist on a premium keyboard it will always be too soft for 
you. Just add the gainer and/or try the expression function of a 
transformer to get a velocity curve you like.


Peter Ostry