EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello, all.

Clearly the group buy for Old Lady was a success.  Has anyone looked into a group buy 
possibility for Ivory?

Cheers,
Larry

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On 30/12/2004, at 9:21 AM, steinway03 wrote:

>
>  Clearly the group buy for Old Lady was a success.  Has anyone looked 
> into a group buy
>  possibility for Ivory?
>

The Old Lady group buy was through Northern Sounds. I'm not sure who 
suggests the group buys. Anyone know?

Andris

> The Old Lady group buy was through Northern Sounds. I'm not sure 
who 
> suggests the group buys. Anyone know?
> 
> Andris

I was the one who suggested to have the group buy on the LUG. I 
contacted Post Musical Instrument and the company was pleased to 
cooperate. 
But the LUG moderators would not let us do so because they 
had 'their own other groupbuys' in mind...
They even rejected my mails to the forum about this issue. 

One day later the Old Lady started on the Northern Sounds forum.

Rob

On 30/12/2004, at 11:29 PM, robcatlender wrote:

>
>  I was the one who suggested to have the group buy on the LUG. I
>  contacted Post Musical Instrument and the company was pleased to
>  cooperate.
>  But the LUG moderators would not let us do so because they
>  had 'their own other groupbuys' in mind...
>  They even rejected my mails to the forum about this issue.
>
>  One day later the Old Lady started on the Northern Sounds forum.

Yes, I remember. I can't remember where I first heard about the Old 
Lady group buy, here or the LUG. In any case I'm now the proud owner of 
the Old Lady so thanks for alerting us Rob.

I find it *very* puzzling why the LUG moderators don't allow these kind 
of announcements.  I would have thought it was in all Logic users' 
interests to know about them...

Andris

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "robcatlender" <rob.catlender@h...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > The Old Lady group buy was through Northern Sounds. I'm not sure 
> who 
> > suggests the group buys. Anyone know?
> > 
> > Andris
> 
> I was the one who suggested to have the group buy on the LUG. I 
> contacted Post Musical Instrument and the company was pleased to 
> cooperate. 
> But the LUG moderators would not let us do so because they 
> had 'their own other groupbuys' in mind...
> They even rejected my mails to the forum about this issue. 
> 
> One day later the Old Lady started on the Northern Sounds forum.
> 
> Rob
Act for a change and make it happen?  Good philosophy, Rob.

Following this fine example, I've been in touch with Synthogy.  They are not interested in a 
group buy.  They feel they are getting enough business and that the product is very good 
value at its present price.

Cheers,
Larry

Dr L's Music   dr_l_music@... 
G4 733MHz 1.2GB RAM  L7 -- OS 10.3.latest, L5.5.0 -- OS9	
accompanying - arranging - composition - lessons - live performance
CD production - from backup piano to full band with vocals            
Check out the pop epic Cupid 911:  http://www.cupid911.com or http://
www.cdbaby.com/cd/drllilarose
Listen to Dr L's internet radio station: http://www.live365.com/stations/dr_l_

I too find it puzzling why there is this gatekeeper function when 
there are half a dozen companies interested in doing this?

Unless they work for Apple or another interested party, there's 
really no reason to "block" this as it benefits everyone, users, 
manufacturer and the community at large.

Ideas?

/Reid

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Andris Sice <hasice@b...> wrote:
> On 30/12/2004, at 11:29 PM, robcatlender wrote:
> 
> >
> >  I was the one who suggested to have the group buy on the LUG. I
> >  contacted Post Musical Instrument and the company was pleased to
> >  cooperate.
> >  But the LUG moderators would not let us do so because they
> >  had 'their own other groupbuys' in mind...
> >  They even rejected my mails to the forum about this issue.
> >
> >  One day later the Old Lady started on the Northern Sounds forum.
> 
> Yes, I remember. I can't remember where I first heard about the 
Old 
> Lady group buy, here or the LUG. In any case I'm now the proud 
owner of 
> the Old Lady so thanks for alerting us Rob.
> 
> I find it *very* puzzling why the LUG moderators don't allow these 
kind 

> of announcements.  I would have thought it was in all Logic users' 
> interests to know about them...
> 
> Andris

> I too find it puzzling why there is this gatekeeper function when
> there are half a dozen companies interested in doing this?

Yes, while I acknowledge that there is a need to moderate and keep an eye
out for list abuse, I just don't understand why EXS discussion and
non-LUG-originated Group Buys are kept off the primary LUG list. After all,
now that the EXS comes free with L7, everyone's going to have one, and I
don't see the necessity for moving discussion of it of the primary LUG list.

-Mark

> I too find it puzzling why there is this gatekeeper function when 
> there are half a dozen companies interested in doing this?
> Unless they work for Apple or another interested party, there's 
> really no reason to "block" this as it benefits everyone, users, 
> manufacturer and the community at large.

Our user group lists exist for members to help eachother with Logic, 
EXS24, etc. They are not primarily meant to be marketing tools for 
companies, even kind companies who want to give our members 
discounts. Without some level of moderation I'm afraid all the 
advertisements would dillute our lists. 

We do still allow people to post about such offers. The long-standing 
policy of the EXS list is a company can post special offers/deals 
once every 60 days. There have been quite a few [OT] posts to the LUG 
about other group buys going on as well. 

> > > I was the one who suggested to have the group buy on the LUG. I
> > > contacted Post Musical Instrument and the company was pleased to
> > > cooperate.
> > > But the LUG moderators would not let us do so because they
> > > had 'their own other groupbuys' in mind...
> > > They even rejected my mails to the forum about this issue.
> > > One day later the Old Lady started on the Northern Sounds forum.
> >
> > I find it *very* puzzling why the LUG moderators don't allow 
> > these kind of announcements.  I would have thought it was in 
> > all Logic users' interests to know about them...

We did not reject the announcement about the group buy started on the 
Northern Sounds forum. I did reject some posts from people suggesting 
the LUG did a group buy for the Old Lady, as Michael Post had already 
contacted us directly. Once he started the group buy an [OT] 
announcement of it was allowed on the LUG and there was quite a bit 
of talk about it here. 

We were unable to do a group buy with Michael in that case as we had 
very little notice, and already had worked out a group buy with 
Sonalksis in December. After much discussion we agreed to continue 
our 5 year tradition of only occasionally having group buys, not 
having them non-stop year round, to both keep our lists focuses on 
what they are truly meant for, and to also give members time to 
recover financially between group buys to give more people a chance 
to participate.

Best wishes
Jeremy
http://logic-users.org

-- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Mark Falchook <falchook@a...> wrote:
> > I too find it puzzling why there is this gatekeeper function when
> > there are half a dozen companies interested in doing this?
> 
> Yes, while I acknowledge that there is a need to moderate and 
> keep an eye out for list abuse, I just don't understand why EXS 
> discussion and non-LUG-originated Group Buys are kept off the 
> primary LUG list. After all, now that the EXS comes free with L7, 
> everyone's going to have one, and I don't see the necessity for 
> moving discussion of it of the primary LUG list. 

People are free to make [OT] posts on the LUG about other group buys. 
As usual we ask people reply to Logic-OT, privately, or to whatever 
forum is hosting the group buy. We do not allow long threads talking 
about exactly how many people have signed up, etc, on the LUG due to 
our long standing policy of keeping off topic threads to a minimum.

Best wishes
Jeremy

On 01/01/2005, at 3:11 AM, Reid wrote:

>
>  Unless they work for Apple or another interested party, there's
>  really no reason to "block" this as it benefits everyone, users,
>  manufacturer and the community at large.
>
>  Ideas?
>

Tell the LUG moderators our concerns. Perhaps they already read this 
list?

Andris