EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Tantalizing promises from the Apple site, snipped from the "Top 10
Reasons to Upgrade to 7.1":

"Create or edit EXS24 instruments more easily using rubber-band
selection of Zones and the ability to define Start Note and Width 
settings when importingmultiple samples."

I wonder what else they've done to it..?

Sonny Keyes
SKa Music
Toronto

www.skamusic.ca

At 16:04 Uhr +0000 06.04.2005, Sonny Keyes wrote:
>"Create or edit EXS24 instruments more easily using rubber-band
>selection of Zones and the ability to define Start Note and Width
>settings when importingmultiple samples."
>
>I wonder what else they've done to it..?

Maybe they've improved the sampling engine... it's just so bad 
compared to the hardware samplers... yes, I still use the EXS because 
it's more convenient. But the sound doesn't live up to the standard 
of the other instruments and FX...

But I think no one seems to mind...

Cheers
Hans

Hans Hafner wrote:
 > Maybe they've improved the sampling engine... it's just so bad
> compared to the hardware samplers... yes, I still use the EXS because
> it's more convenient. But the sound doesn't live up to the standard
> of the other instruments and FX...
>
> But I think no one seems to mind...

I actually do.
Aliasing is pretty much of an issue with the EXS, as soon as you don't use at least one zone per tritone. Add some pitch shifting
and you'll need even more.

Kontakt (which I also own) is quite better in that aspect, but on the other hand, the EXS's LP filter IMO is still sounding just
great, especially on synth-like basses or squealing resonant stuff.

- Sascha

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@g...> wrote:
> Hans Hafner wrote:
>  > Maybe they've improved the sampling engine... it's just so bad
> > compared to the hardware samplers...
> >
> > But I think no one seems to mind...
> 
> I actually do.
> Aliasing is pretty much of an issue with the EXS, as soon as you don't use at least 
> one zone per tritone. Add some pitch shifting and you'll need even more.

The E-mu hardware samplers used to have something called distortionless pitch 
shifting which worked great. I'm not sure if their virtual samplers have this. I sure 
wish the EXS had a similar algorithm.
 
> Kontakt (which I also own) is quite better in that aspect, but on the other hand, 
the EXS's LP filter IMO is still sounding just great, especially on synth-like basses or 
squealing resonant stuff.

I like the sound of the EXS filters but there is a bug with the LPF. If you listen to a 
sample that has an LPF with the res set high, you will here a click (like a bad edit) at 
the very end of the sample. Try this with a deep kick drum and you'll hear what I 
mean.

-Matt