EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

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What kind of samples conversion would 
you like for the EXS24 ? 

  o Roland S series 
  o Kurzweil 
  o GigaSampler 
  o Yamaha A series 
  o 94b Guillemot 
  o Something else 


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At 11:00 PM +0000 2001.07.02, exs-users@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>What kind of samples conversion would
>you like for the EXS24 ?
>
>   o Roland S series
>   o Kurzweil
>   o GigaSampler
>   o Yamaha A series
>   o 94b Guillemot
>   o Something else

Hey, we forgot E-mu, Ensoniq and Casio SK-1!  :-)

Wouldn't it be better to have 3rd party companies working on their 
own converter apps? What if Emagic can't get to *your* sampler right 
away, but maybe next year, or the next? *Cough* WaveBurner...

CDextract even supports EXS24 as a destination format.

   http://www.cdxtract.com/

I would like to see multiple outs and a modulation matrix, though.
-- 

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Top wishlist features for EXS24
 

  o More sample conversion (see other poll) 
  o Multiple outs & separate bus allocation 
  o Velocity crossfades 
  o Additional modulation routings, or modulation-matrix 
  o Drag and drop of zones and samples 
  o Bypass scan of all the instruments 


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At 01:29 PM 3/07/01 +0000, you wrote:

>  o More sample conversion (see other poll) 
>  o Multiple outs & separate bus allocation 
>  o Velocity crossfades 
>  o Additional modulation routings, or modulation-matrix 
>  o Drag and drop of zones and samples 
>  o Bypass scan of all the instruments 
>

If (as announced at MusicMesse 2001) the EXS24 is going to have the ability
to spool files up from the hard-drive like Gigasampler does -- it would be
highly desirable that it be able to read/convert  Gigasampler instruments
(gig files). 
There are many of these available already and many large instruments eg
pianos are only available in this format. A decent grand piano sample set -
on a par with the GigaPiano but with 24 bit samples would be a very
desirable addition to the factory sounds.

Regards,
Murray

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User defined folder for exs-instrument 
search (not the hole drive) and
the EXS should search the samples in 
the instrument folder first. 

  o yes 
  o no 


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This really falls under the sampler/format support poll.

Regards - Colin

Murray wrote:

>If (as announced at MusicMesse 2001) the EXS24 is going to have the ability
>to spool files up from the hard-drive like Gigasampler does -- it would be
>highly desirable that it be able to read/convert  Gigasampler instruments
>(gig files).
>There are many of these available already and many large instruments eg
>pianos are only available in this format. A decent grand piano sample set -
>on a par with the GigaPiano but with 24 bit samples would be a very
>desirable addition to the factory sounds.

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Top wishlist features for EXS24 continued
 

  o Set the range and sample assignment of the keygroups via midi keyboard 
  o User defined folder for exs-instrument search  
  o Change a given parameter for several selected zones or groups at one time 
  o Switch and/or crossfade via midi events (eg sustain pedal) 
  o Cross-fades between groups, e.g. cross-fading between a cello group and a viola group as you move up the keyboard  
  o Amplitude envelopes a la Roland (4 x time parameter, 3 x level parameter) 
  o Ability to edit zones graphically on the keyboard graphic 
  o "Import multiple samples" imports files in correct alphabetical order - it currently reverses them 
  o Editor window's keyboard should highlight to correspond with midi input and/or sample zone being edited 
  o A selection of envelope presets (via a drop menu) 
  o When loading or adding samples, starting note should be user-definable (not just C1) 


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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
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Allow crossfading between two layers
of samples in one exs24 instrument via
use of controller. (eg modwheel) 

  o Yes 
  o No 
  o Dont understand the question 


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--- In exs-users@y..., exs-users@y... wrote:
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> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
> exs-users group:
> 
> Allow crossfading between two layers
> of samples in one exs24 instrument via
> use of controller. (eg modwheel) 
> 

This is the same as item 4 on the previous poll - and yes I want it 
too.  :>)

Regards,
James Thornton

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/polls

Just checked out these polls for the first time.

What strikes me is that these wishes are basically small ones compared to
the big issues.
My neightboard studio, wich uses Cubase etc, just got the Halion sampler.
It have multiple outs wich lets you send your snare to a reverb and let the
kick go dry.
(I know that you just use two instruments inside logic, but hey... Different
aux settings should be for every sample inside a drumkit I think.

The Halion also (of course) have a highpass and a bandpass filter.
Who makes synths without it these days...?

A lot of hardwaresamplers also have the possibility to have different
filtersettings for each drum (sample) inside a drumset. Also eq and aux
settings. Even Vienna on a SB card does that.

And the fact that Logic is shipping a sampleplayer version of their sampler
is special.
First of all both the EXS24 and the Halion _is_ sample players.
You cannot record with them, but you have to record inside another program
and then import the files to the sampler.
It would actually be nice to have the option of recording directly on a
EXS24 track and have the recording directly inside the sampler.

I think Logic should really ship a full version, with a sample editor etc...
or else I wouldn't even consider it over the Halion
I actually thought of crossgrading my version of the EXS24 to the VST
version since I also use Paris a lot, but there you go...

BTW: I see here:
http://www.emagic.de/english/products/instruments/exsp24.html
that the EXSP24 have multiple outputs.
What's that about?
Is it a feature that we don't have in the EXS24 or will it come here too?


BTW2: I own my EXS24 and I love it for what it does :)

--
Arvid Solvang
http://www.viagram.no/

BTW: I see here:
http://www.emagic.de/english/products/instruments/exsp24.html
that the EXSP24 have multiple outputs.


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Where does it say that? General comments: Your concerns deserve applause,
but you should also consider that integrated software samplers are extremely
new and Logic was one of the first to release such a product. Halion came
out much, much later than the EXS and I was desperate for anything that
could do what either offers. Thank God the EXS came out when it did.
However, I strongly hope for the features mentioned by you as well as those
covered in the poles. Thanks for addressing the additional issues that, if
incorporated, would put the EXS above all other soft-samplers.... Jer
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
exs-users group:

What percentage of your compositions do 
you use EXS besides midi and other 
audio related files? 

  o Less than 5% 
  o 5-10% 
  o 10-25% 
  o 25-50% 
  o 50-75% 
  o 75-100% 
  o Don't understand the question 


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What operating system do you use? 

  o Windows 
  o Mac 


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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
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Which OS versions do you expect to be 
using in six months time?  

  o Windows (95/98/ME) 
  o Windows (NT/2000) 
  o Windows XP 
  o Apple OS9 
  o Apple OSX 


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Unfortunately, the poll doesn't reflect the number of people who use more
than one operating system. For example: I voted for OSX and XP. I do not use
XP for music, I use it gaming and network administrative testing. If the
question is about music, then I will be using OSX almost exclusively. -Jer

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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
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Would you like a proper manual 
explaining the features of EXS24mkII? 

  o Yes, it would really help 
  o No, I'm doing fine without it 


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I voted YES, but would love to have another choice:

* Yes, and include a thorough appendix on ESXP24 and the differences 
with the EXS24.

I have the EXSP24 and would like better docs. But I am also left 
wondering about issues such as: where, if anywhere, does a lack of user 
controls map into a lack of (or difference in) instrument/sample 
features from the EXS?

It could appear that the EXS and EXSP share the same core and internal 
functionality, but the EXSP does not allow user manipulation of some of 
the functionality. Or... maybe they're completely different instruments 
that happen to import the same kind of instrument/sample files and that 
may or may not support the same features of those files.

I know I've had some weirdness in ProSamples EXS instruments, where 
some samples were pitched an octave too high and sounded like 
chipmunks, for example. I've experienced other strangeness from time to 
time with EXSP that I've chalked up to bugs, but maybe it boils down to 
not fully supporting EXS file features.