EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Message posted by magaret millisaon <billy7h@...>
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I'm using Logic 7.0.1 on 10.4.2, with Pro App Suport 3. When I begin to play
the piece, I get the "System Overload" message every few seconds. (The audio
engine was not able to process all required data in time. (-10011). In the
CPU window, the right column is never active, while the left column mostly
says at 1/4, sometimes spiking to 3/4's. I press the "continue" button and
begin to play again. The CoreAudio alert repeats a dozen times as I continue
through the piece until I reach the last note I've been able to record. 

Then, I can suddenly play back from the beginning of the song, all the way
through without the error message at all. It is as if the computer stops
when it tries to process each new sample, but once it has played through all
of them, it handles them easily. However, once I can play the whole piece,
adding a new sample (a large sample like performance legato) doesn't trigger
the alert message. I only get it when I am first beginning to play through
the piece. 

I have an external Firewire HD by LaCie to store my samples, so that on the
laptop, 37.91 GB's of 55.76 GB capacity are available. I use EXS 24 samples
only, Solo Strings from VSL, with Core Audio (till I get more acquainted
with Logic 7 and decide what I need). The piece is a string quartet, so even
though I have 80 samples on different tracks, there are only 4 notes playing
at once at any time. The only plug ins are platinumverb and gain, and the
problem continues with these plug-ins "bypassed." 

I have been reading the discussion board and took advice given about
upgrading to Logic 7.0.1, and getting Pro Application Support 3.1. The
problems I experienced have not been corrected. 

I decided to use CoreAudio until I became more familiar with the program,
and I realize with a three year old laptop, I must be pushing the system to
the limit. But then again, it plays easily once I have slugged through the
error messages. I ereased my HD and reinstalled Logic a few weeks ago. That
did not fix the problem either. ( I upgraded to 10.4 to use Toast 7, but
then I was unable to use my modem. After 72 hours of Apple support trouble
shooting via telephone, I was told to erase my hard drive and reinstall
everything. I did so and the problem wasn't fixed. I then talked to someone
who knew of a bug in 10.4. I didn't have to erase the HD after all. I was
told the bug was fixed in 10.4.2) 

The second problem involves saving. I save this piece as a "project." I can
use the "save" option without a crash, but 99% of the time, if I use the
"save as" option, I get the "beach ball of death" and send yet another
report to Apple. 

How is my laptop able to process the data in time once I slog through all
the alert messages telling me it cannot? Does anyone know of a "save as"
fix? 

Much Obliged! 
Billy

> I'm using Logic 7.0.1 on 10.4.2, with Pro App Suport 3. When I  
> begin to play the piece, I get the "System Overload" message every few seconds.  
> (The audio
> engine was not able to process all required data in time. (-10011).  
> In the CPU window, the right column is never active, while the left column  
> mostly says at 1/4, sometimes spiking to 3/4's. I press the "continue"  
> button and
> begin to play again. The CoreAudio alert repeats a dozen times as I  
> continue through the piece until I reach the last note I've been able to  
> record.


Before you debug your problems, you should buy the $20 upgrade to  
Logic 7.1.

Many bugs were fixed and it is much more stable overall.  Your  
problems might disappear after the upgrade.

Even if not, your whole experience using logic will improve.  Then  
when you debug these issues, you know you won't be wasting your time  
working on something that has already been fixed in an update.

- Dave

> I'm using Logic 7.0.1 on 10.4.2, with Pro App Suport 3. When I  
> begin to play the piece, I get the "System Overload" message every few seconds.  
> (The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time. (-10011).  
> In the CPU window, the right column is never active, while the left column  
> mostly says at 1/4, sometimes spiking to 3/4's. I press the "continue"  
> button and begin to play again. The CoreAudio alert repeats a dozen times as I  
> continue through the piece until I reach the last note I've been able to  
> record.


This is fairly typical if you're using a lot of sample ram...for your  
system.  I  used a laptop for years and this was the way of  
things...don't worry...You can make great music on a  
laptop...but...you can finally get to where you overload the system  
entirely.  But sounds like you're working within what you're system  
can do.  If you get to the point where the song won't play....you can  
always bounce tracks or freeze tracks to relieve the load.  Bouncing  
seemed to work best for my laptop.

hope this helps
julie

www.julielarson.net