EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Message posted by Tor Banlon <torsig1967@...>
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I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have (for Mac)
is Translator or CDXtract.

Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which is the
best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've also heard
some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to chose.

On Mar 16, 2006, at 4:33 AM, forums@... wrote:

> Message posted by Tor Banlon <torsig1967@...>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have  
> (for Mac)
> is Translator or CDXtract.
>
> Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which  
> is the
> best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've  
> also heard
> some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to  
> chose.
>

Not sure about the S5000
but try this
Open an EXS and inside of it you can import AKAI
not in front of my rig but in the editor there is a tab that says  
import AKAI samples.
Good Luck
Ciao
Gio

> Message posted by Tor Banlon <torsig1967@...>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have (for Mac)
> is Translator or CDXtract.
>
> Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which is the
> best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've also heard
> some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to chose.


CDxTract is much more reliable. For MAC, Translator is NO a choice...

Nikko

At 07:02 PM 3/16/2006 +0100, you wrote:

> > I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have (for Mac)
> > is Translator or CDXtract.
> >
> > Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which is the
> > best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've also heard
> > some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to chose.

>CDxTract is much more reliable. For MAC, Translator is NO a choice...

Well, they can choose it if they want to. =)

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

> Message posted by Tor Banlon <torsig1967@...>
> 
> I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have  
> (for Mac)
> is Translator or CDXtract.
>
> Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which  
> is the
> best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've  
> also heard
> some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to  
> chose.


I tried Chicken Systems Translator a year ago and it completely  
failed on my OS X system.  I was translating from Sample Cell, not  
from Akai so maybe it would work better for you.  In addition to  
incorrectly translating the instruments with major errors making the  
instruments unusable, it corrupted my original Sample Cell  
directories (where the translated programs were also being saved) and  
I had to restore them from a backup after using the program.

On the plus side, their tech support was responsive and seemed  
motivated.  They made a good faith effort to fix the problems and  
even sent me several updated versions of the application, but they  
were not able to fix it. They told me that the program worked fine on  
Windows and that they were having trouble porting it to OS X.  I  
don't use Windows so did not test that.

Eventually I gave up on the repeated installing of new versions and  
sending them reports of the problems so I requested a refund.  They  
did issue the refund, after multiple reminders by email and phone  
over a period of three weeks.

That was a year ago.  Maybe by now they have fixed their problems  
with OS X.  However if you decide to try their OS X version, make  
sure to back up all of your sampler source files to a separate drive,  
and test the translated files in detail before depending on them.

Good luck!

- Dave

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: Garth Hjelte <garth@...>
> At 07:02 PM 3/16/2006 +0100, you wrote:
> 
> > > I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have (for Mac)
> > > is Translator or CDXtract.
> > >
> > > Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which is the
> > > best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like one shot, I've also heard
> > > some complaints about Translator. So I really don't know which to chose.
> 
> >CDxTract is much more reliable. For MAC, Translator is NO a choice...
> 
> Well, they can choose it if they want to. =)

I have used Chickensys Translator on MAC to convert my Emu EOS samples to WAVs and it worked beautifully.  I assume it will work equally well with Akai files.

Kind regards,
Dave

Message posted by Tor Banlon <torsig1967@...>
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Gio wrote:
>Open an EXS and inside of it you can import AKAI
>
Hello Gio, that only works with older Akai formats unfortunately.

> > I need to convert from Akai S5000 to EXS24 and the chioces I have  
> > (for Mac) is Translator or CDXtract.
> >
> > Anyone with experience from these converters? I need advice which  
> > is the best. I've heard CDXtract misses parameters like
> one shot, I've  
> > also heard some complaints about Translator. So I really
> don't know which to  chose.
> >
> 
> Not sure about the S5000 but try this
> Open an EXS and inside of it you can import AKAI
> not in front of my rig but in the editor there is a
> tab that says  import AKAI samples.
> Good Luck
> Ciao
> Gio



Yes, the Akai Import inside EXS worked very well for
me.I had to fix one (1) loop after importing a
complete library from CD Rom.

CDextract worked very well for me . Sometimes you have
to go back an re-import or re-convert a single program
when you do a complete CD in one go. 



Markus Kmitta

Logic Pro 7.1.1/OSX.3.8

I have an external firewire drive with a few commercial libraries. The 
EXS sees most of them fine but there's one library that's invisible. 
The manual says "Instruments must be stored in the Sampler Instruments 
sub-folder of the main Logic program folder". I don't have one... On 
main drive>Applications I only see the bare app and Waveburner.

What gives?

I tried to put the renegade library alias  in to main 
drive>Library>Application Support>Logic>Sampler Instruments  but got a 
message that the Sampler Instruments folder cannot be modified.  I also 
tried to put it in to main drive>users>"me">Library>Application 
Support>Logic>Sampler Instruments but the EXS doesn't see it.

Please note that I've been using this library for over a year without a 
problem. I was recently forced to wipe the main drive and reinstall the 
system and everything else. I've had this problem only since trying to 
get things back to running

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Andris

--- Andris Sice <hasice@...> wrote:

> Logic Pro 7.1.1/OSX.3.8
> 
> I have an external firewire drive with a few
> commercial libraries. The 
> EXS sees most of them fine but there's one library
> that's invisible. 
> The manual says "Instruments must be stored in the
> Sampler Instruments 
> sub-folder of the main Logic program folder". I
> don't have one... On 
> main drive>Applications I only see the bare app and
> Waveburner.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> I tried to put the renegade library alias  in to
> main 
> drive>Library>Application Support>Logic>Sampler
> Instruments  but got a 
> message that the Sampler Instruments folder cannot
> be modified.  I also 
> tried to put it in to main
> drive>users>"me">Library>Application 
> Support>Logic>Sampler Instruments but the EXS
> doesn't see it.
> 
> Please note that I've been using this library for
> over a year without a 
> problem. I was recently forced to wipe the main
> drive and reinstall the 
> system and everything else. I've had this problem
> only since trying to 
> get things back to running
>

Well you put it in the right place. It does belong in
the user ...folder and not the Mac...folder.
Why EXs doesn't see it i don't know. Have you tried
EXS Manager? They offer a trial versioin that will
work for a smaller library. If not, you could purchase
the full version. As an alternative, you could try the
project manager. Most here consider it a joke, but i
have succesfully used it in situations similar to
yours.
JP

--- Andris Sice <hasice@...> wrote:

> Logic Pro 7.1.1/OSX.3.8
> 
> I have an external firewire drive with a few
> commercial libraries. The 
> EXS sees most of them fine but there's one library
> that's invisible. 
> The manual says "Instruments must be stored in the
> Sampler Instruments 
> sub-folder of the main Logic program folder". I
> don't have one... On 
> main drive>Applications I only see the bare app and
> Waveburner.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> I tried to put the renegade library alias  in to
> main 
> drive>Library>Application Support>Logic>Sampler
> Instruments  but got a 
> message that the Sampler Instruments folder cannot
> be modified.  I also 
> tried to put it in to main
> drive>users>"me">Library>Application 
> Support>Logic>Sampler Instruments but the EXS
> doesn't see it.
> 
> Please note that I've been using this library for
> over a year without a 
> problem. I was recently forced to wipe the main
> drive and reinstall the 
> system and everything else. I've had this problem
> only since trying to 
> get things back to running

Another thought. Last time i had this type of problem
I had to do something strange like put the instruments
folder within a separate folder and then put that in
the "sample instruments folder". I know it doesn't
make sense but if I remember correctly it worked.

Message posted by Adam Chin <chinjazz@...>
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Try opening up the Project Manager, and have it re-scan all the folders that you have designated for your samples.  Sampler Instruments & Actual sample files.

My set up is not the standard set up.  I've also got an external drive for which I've taken Alias' of the folders there and copied them into the boot drive's Sampler Instruments folder:  "BootDisk\Library\Application Support\Logic\sampler Instruments".  

There's a possiblity that your Project Manager DB file got tweaked, and needs re-building

Good Luck... Any by the way, if you have a lot of samples, I mean up to and over 100 Gig worth, the Project Manager scan can take hours.

hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone can tell me what seems to be the best piano
emulator i can run with logic on PC? either through EXS or as a vst plugin?
I dont want to buy just anything only to realise its rubbish! I would like
it to sound as close to the real thing as possible, a concert grand maybe?
all the presets and GM pianos just seem to have a fake sound to them, i know
im not going to be able to reproduce a piano exactly but would hope there's
a package out there that is better than these GM pianos. How about any FX
pesets to give a better sound with what is on offer too? this woulod be a
great help.
Many thanks

Fred

On 23/3/06 14:00, "Fred Schofield" <fredschofield@...> wrote:

> hi everyone,
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me what seems to be the best piano
> emulator i can run with logic on PC? either through EXS or as a vst plugin?
> I dont want to buy just anything only to realise its rubbish! I would like
> it to sound as close to the real thing as possible, a concert grand maybe?
> all the presets and GM pianos just seem to have a fake sound to them, i know
> im not going to be able to reproduce a piano exactly but would hope there's
> a package out there that is better than these GM pianos. How about any FX
> pesets to give a better sound with what is on offer too? this woulod be a
> great help.
> Many thanks
> 
> Fred


I use a few pianos via EXS: they¹re all very good (in their own individual
ways)

http://www.artvista.net/Malmsjo%20Acoustic%20Grand.html (my favourite)

http://www.artvista.net/Virtual_Grand_Piano.html (quite heavy use of RAM
tho¹: I have a dual 1.25 Mirror door G4 and sometimes it has difficulty)

http://www.synthogy.com/ (3 pianos in one: curiously I don¹t have as much
difficulty with these as the VGP)

Certainly Hans Adamson¹s pianos have a lovely quality to them: I think that
you¹ll be impressed. Listen to the demos (but, for me, the Malmsjö is the
best)

John.