EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi group,

  This question is sort of about EXS24, but a little more general. 
I've got some Wizoo drum library CD's for Akai, and I'm converting 
them with the EXS. I'll want to use them in EXS, but I also want to 
use the wav files and make some kits in my DR008...

  Some of the wav files convert as mono files with "L" & "R" at the 
end of it's name, instead of making stereo wav files. I don't why, 
maybe it's a Wizoo thing. Not all of them do this, some do convert as 
stereo files.

  My question is, what's the best way to take a "L" & "R" mono files 
and make a stereo file out of the 2 files? I pulled the files up in 
Logic's audio window, and selected a pair of them, and tried 
to "Convert to Stereo Wave", and it says "no split stereo file 
selected". So, that doesn't work. Will I have to lay a pair of files 
out on the arrange window, and then bounce in order to get these into 
stereo wav files? What a giant pain! There must be an easier way.

Anyone know what I can do?

thanks so much,
David Floyd

Hi David,

>   Some of the wav files convert as mono files with "L" & "R" at the
> end of it's name, instead of making stereo wav files. I don't why,
> maybe it's a Wizoo thing. Not all of them do this, some do convert as
> stereo files.

Akai saves them this way and I suspect the conversion does not merge them
into a stereo wav file.

>   My question is, what's the best way to take a "L" & "R" mono files
> and make a stereo file out of the 2 files? I pulled the files up in
> Logic's audio window, and selected a pair of them, and tried
> to "Convert to Stereo Wave", and it says "no split stereo file
> selected". So, that doesn't work. Will I have to lay a pair of files
> out on the arrange window, and then bounce in order to get these into
> stereo wav files? What a giant pain! There must be an easier way.

I believe that this is because Logic creates split stereo files with the
extensions of ".wal" and "war" for wav file left and wave file right.  If
you rename these files with .wal and .war extensions instead of the current
.wav extensions, you'll probably be able to convert to stereo wave without
any problems.

HTH,
Fernando

--- In exs-users@y..., "Fernando Vicente" <fvicente@h...> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> >   Some of the wav files convert as mono files with "L" & "R" at 
the
> > end of it's name, instead of making stereo wav files. I don't why,
> > maybe it's a Wizoo thing. Not all of them do this, some do convert 
as
> > stereo files.
> 
> Akai saves them this way and I suspect the conversion does not merge 
them
> into a stereo wav file.

But some of them are converted as interleaved stereo files.


> 
> >   My question is, what's the best way to take a "L" & "R" mono 
files
> > and make a stereo file out of the 2 files? I pulled the files up 
in
> > Logic's audio window, and selected a pair of them, and tried
> > to "Convert to Stereo Wave", and it says "no split stereo file
> > selected". So, that doesn't work. Will I have to lay a pair of 
files
> > out on the arrange window, and then bounce in order to get these 
into
> > stereo wav files? What a giant pain! There must be an easier way.
> 
> I believe that this is because Logic creates split stereo files with 
the
> extensions of ".wal" and "war" for wav file left and wave file 
right.  If
> you rename these files with .wal and .war extensions instead of the 
current
> .wav extensions, you'll probably be able to convert to stereo wave 
without
> any problems.


Thanks, Fernando, I'll try that..


have a great weekend,
David

At 09:00 PM 7/20/01 +0000, you wrote:

>This question is sort of about EXS24, but a little more general.
>I've got some Wizoo drum library CD's for Akai, and I'm converting
>them with the EXS. I'll want to use them in EXS, but I also want to
>use the wav files and make some kits in my DR008...
>   Some of the wav files convert as mono files with "L" & "R" at the
>end of it's name, instead of making stereo wav files. I don't why,
>maybe it's a Wizoo thing. Not all of them do this, some do convert as
>stereo files.

(Before we start, let me start by saying - "take my wife, please...")

The EXS convertor is probably doing a good thing. There's two definitions 
of "stereo." One is "dual miked guitar with care to eliminate phase issues, 
etc." and the other is "boy, this sample sounds wide!!"

Many times, especially with the latter, "stereo" files have different loop 
points for both sides, different start times, other differences. In those 
cases it is not a good idea to make a single interleaved stereo .wav or 
AIFF file, because then those setting would be shared. In those cases, it 
looks like the EXS convertor is making a decision to leave it as dual mono, 
because somethign didn't match. That's why some -L and -R pairs convert as 
stereo and certain ones don't.

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David wrote:
I pulled the files up 
in
> > Logic's audio window, and selected a pair of them, and tried
> > to "Convert to Stereo Wave", and it says "no split stereo file
> > selected". So, that doesn't work.

--- In exs-users@y..., "Fernando Vicente" <fvicente@h...> wrote: 
> 
> I believe that this is because Logic creates split stereo files with 
the
> extensions of ".wal" and "war" for wav file left and wave file 
right.  If
> you rename these files with .wal and .war extensions instead of the 
current
> .wav extensions, you'll probably be able to convert to stereo wave 
without
> any problems.

Yes, that does work just fine....

thank you,
David

--- In exs-users@y..., "Rubber Chicken Software Co." <support@c...> 
wrote:
 In those 
cases, it 
> looks like the EXS convertor is making a decision to leave it as 
dual mono, 
> because somethign didn't match. That's why some -L and -R pairs 
convert as 
> stereo and certain ones don't.

You're probably right, that makes sense to me. Now, take my 
dog...please.

regards,
df