EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

From: Eli Krantzberg
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS 24 sample Cd\ufffds for swop! point of view...


yael wrote:
> I respect a lot all the job of those companies which bring
> us usefull tool, that's why, if u'r a professionnal, u have to buy the
> original CD if u use it in a Pro Job.

What if your not professional and not using it on a pro job, but only using
it
for your own personal non professional projects? And based on the cost to
profit ratio you wouldn't normally buy these CDs.  Of course it is still
illegal, but is the crime then as "bad"?
--
Eli Krantzberg
***************
If u'r not professionnal, I mean u don't earn money with u'r music, u can do
what u want !
I don't know any report of any TRIAL against any kind of user.
Yael

From: Eli Krantzberg
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [exs] EXS 24 sample Cd\ufffds for swop! point of view...


yael wrote:

>
>> If u'r not professionnal, I mean u don't earn money with u'r music, u can
do
>> what u want !

>I don't think the sample CD companies would agree with this. I don't think
that
>they have a policy of allowing non income generating project studios to use
to
>use their products at no charge.

Did those companies invest in research to find a solution to not be able to
copy Cd ? ...no...

>By this reasoning though, how much income must you generate from your
studio
>before you begin to lose sleep at night over using unpaid for sample CDs?
$100?
>$500? $1,000, $5,000?

it's not a Money problem, even 1 $ ... when u win money u can buy those Cd,
if it's an hobby u can do what u want...

yael

From: Fernando Vicente
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: [exs] EXS 24 sample Cd\ufffds for swop! point of view...


Hi

yael wrote,
>> Did those companies invest in research to find a solution to not be able
>>to
>> copy Cd ? ...no...

>Did you ever work in these companies?  I don't think that you have
>otherwise, you wouldn't speak the way you do.  Don't make statements about
>what you know nothing about.

No , it's true but I don't take a lot of risk to say that !


>I'm sure that when you write a number hit that *could* generate millions,
>you won't mind that only one person (who is a professional) buys your CD,
>then trades it and gives away copies to everyone else in the world since
the
>rest of the people are only hobbyists - ie they don't make money from
>listening to your music so it is just a hobby to them.

Not at all, when someone is listenning to my music in a Bar or on TV or in
Discoteca ! someone win money !


>Do you see how absurd this reason is?  No matter how you put it - you are
>justifying theft.  That's like saying you can go into a car dealership and,
>because your hobby is collecting cars, it is okay to simply take one of the
>new Mercedes on the lot since you only do it as a hobby and don't make
money
>off of it.  Okay this is a little far-fetched, but it is similar.

No , it's not the same... People who Trade CD's don't stole them, they ask
before !
If I ask someone to lend me his Mercedes, he can say no !!


> If you
>thought for a minute - that if everyone who uses samples bought them, maybe
>we could get many titles for very little money.  As it is, in order to be
>profitable or at least break even, the manufacturers have to keep the price
>up.

>If you do it as a hobby and cannot afford the great sample CD, then simply
>don't spend the money.  Get creative and make your own samples.

too expensive ;o)

>Fernando
Yael
.