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2001-12-27 by nicholas bennison
Hello. Just wondering if its possible to apply EXS settings (eg. filter, LFo etc...) in the same instrument to individual samples. Right now when i change the settings they affect all the samples in my instrument. If anyone can be of assistance.... Thanks, nicholas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
2001-12-27 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
It's a drag, I know, but that is correct. The filters are global. The EXS, in many respects, is a synth driven by sampled waves. Perhaps they'll add an additional filter level that is sample-specific. You should remember that filters place a heavy load on the CPU and having one on each sample could theoretically overload the CPU in only one instrument instance. The work around for what you're after is opening the same instrument in two instances. Any change to the filter setting to a specific instance is saved with the song, not the instrument, unless you overwrite the instrument settings; so you can open the same instrument on various tracks for various filter treatment. Stating the obvious here I know, but...
> From: "nicholas bennison" <nbennison@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:17:14 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [exs] Filtering individual samples > > Hello. Just wondering if its possible to apply EXS settings (eg. filter, > LFo etc...) in the same instrument to individual samples. Right now when i > change the settings they affect all the samples in my instrument. If anyone > can be of assistance.... > Thanks, > nicholas > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2001-12-28 by Rubber Chicken Software Co.
At 04:03 PM 12/27/01 -0500, you wrote: >>Hello. Just wondering if its possible to apply EXS settings (eg. filter, >>LFo etc...) in the same instrument to individual samples. Right now when i >>change the settings they affect all the samples in my instrument. If anyone >>can be of assistance.... >It's a drag, I know, but that is correct. The filters are global. The EXS, >in many respects, is a synth driven by sampled waves. Perhaps they'll add an >additional filter level that is sample-specific. Sorry for nit-picking, but the filter can somewhat be altered to the Zone level by using Groups - there's a alteration of the global setting for the cutoff and the resonance, as well as for the amplitude envelope (the ADSR part). There isn't any way to do LFO's filter envelopes, mono-poly, etc. to the zone level, though. I can't wait until EXS 5.0 (whatever it'll be called) does this. It'll invalidate a bunch of programming on our end, but who cares... >You should remember that >filters place a heavy load on the CPU and having one on each sample could >theoretically overload the CPU in only one instrument instance. The work >around for what you're after is opening the same instrument in two >instances. Any change to the filter setting to a specific instance is saved >with the song, not the instrument, unless you overwrite the instrument >settings; so you can open the same instrument on various tracks for various >filter treatment. Stating the obvious here I know, but... That's true - but there's every other soft-sampler that can do that. Why not the EXS? Garth Hjelte Sampler User
2001-12-28 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Thanks for the clarification Garth. I forgot about the groups filter modifiers. I know I'm a bit out of my element on the programming of software. I'm very curious about examples of synths that have zone-specific filtering. I was not aware of this. I made my analysis based on list-user complaints that the filters sometimes load their CPUs heavily. I imagined the same powerful filter assigned to each key in the instrument and surmised that this would make such instruments unusable to many EXS owners. I'm sure there are ways to implement programming where there's some kind of load balancing. But to have the EXS' powerful filter available individually to each sample would be jaw-dropping to say the least.
> From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." <support@...> > Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:33:17 -0500 > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [exs] Filtering individual samples > > At 04:03 PM 12/27/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>> Hello. Just wondering if its possible to apply EXS settings (eg. filter, >>> LFo etc...) in the same instrument to individual samples. Right now when i >>> change the settings they affect all the samples in my instrument. If anyone >>> can be of assistance.... >> It's a drag, I know, but that is correct. The filters are global. The EXS, >> in many respects, is a synth driven by sampled waves. Perhaps they'll add an >> additional filter level that is sample-specific. > > Sorry for nit-picking, but the filter can somewhat be altered to the Zone > level by using Groups - there's a alteration of the global setting for the > cutoff and the resonance, as well as for the amplitude envelope (the ADSR > part). > > There isn't any way to do LFO's filter envelopes, mono-poly, etc. to the > zone level, though. I can't wait until EXS 5.0 (whatever it'll be called) > does this. It'll invalidate a bunch of programming on our end, but who > cares... > >> You should remember that >> filters place a heavy load on the CPU and having one on each sample could >> theoretically overload the CPU in only one instrument instance. The work >> around for what you're after is opening the same instrument in two >> instances. Any change to the filter setting to a specific instance is saved >> with the song, not the instrument, unless you overwrite the instrument >> settings; so you can open the same instrument on various tracks for various >> filter treatment. Stating the obvious here I know, but... > > That's true - but there's every other soft-sampler that can do that. Why > not the EXS? > > Garth Hjelte > Sampler User > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2001-12-28 by Sascha Franck
<HELP@...> wrote: > I'm very curious about examples of synths that have zone-specific > filtering. I was not aware of this. I made my analysis based on list-user > complaints that the filters sometimes load their CPUs heavily. I imagined > the same powerful filter assigned to each key in the instrument and surmised > that this would make such instruments unusable to many EXS owners. I'm sure > there are ways to implement programming where there's some kind of load > balancing. But to have the EXS' powerful filter available individually to > each sample would be jaw-dropping to say the least. As I also own HALion I must say that of course such a filter flexibility is nice to have, but boy, it can certainly make your CPU throw up. Also, what I like with the EXS is that you can clearly see your groupings, a think that HALion (as some sort of tradeoff) doesn't offer. I would however like to see a bit of improvements in the EXS filter section, there should at least be useful further modes such as highpass, bandpass and notch. That would allready make the filter way more flexible. Anyways, from a more positive point of view: The EXS filter IMO sounds pretty much better than those of the competitors (I had to compare Virtual Sampler, VolksZampler, HALion and the EXS once). Regards, Sascha