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2002-01-29 by part.muted

This may seem somewhat simple...

But what is the idea behind groups in the EXS instrument editor...?

And in what situation would you use them..?

Peace // D


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Re: [exs] : Groups -->

2002-01-29 by David Tobin

> This may seem somewhat simple...
> 
> But what is the idea behind groups in the EXS instrument editor...?
> 
> And in what situation would you use them..?

Here are some examples of ways I use groups:

1.  Toms are loud enough in comparison with each other but all of them need
to be louder against the rest of the kit:

Solution:  Raise the dB level of the tom group as a whole..

2.   I want to make a "mute group" (ie closed hats make open hats stop).

Solution:  Assign hats to the same group and tell the group that it is only
allowed one voice at a time.

Basically, any time you want to edit parameters of a number of sounds
together - (sort of batch processing !!!) put them in a group.

Regards


Regards

David Tobin

Wow and Flutter ltd

Music for Film/TV production, General Music Technology
Arranging, Multimedia production, Music Tech teaching,
Artist recordings etc.

Re: [exs] : Groups -->

2002-01-29 by Murray McDowall

At 11:47 AM 29/01/02 +0000, you wrote:
>This may seem somewhat simple...
>
>But what is the idea behind groups in the EXS instrument editor...?
>
>And in what situation would you use them..?

Another reason is to create velocity switching. If you have a set of
samples with 3 or 4 levels of loudness for each note or drum -- just assign
all the pp samples to one group, all the ff samples to another and so on.
Then when you want to program in the velocity switching, do it in the
groups so that group pp only responds to notes with a velocity between 00
and 40 say. 

This saves and incredible amout of time (imagine setting velocity levels
for every single sample in a large piano sample set) and also if later on
you want to change the response or scaling of the instrument it is very
easy to edit the velocity zones of the groups.

Regards,
Murray

Re: [exs] : Groups -->

2002-01-29 by Sascha Franck

Some more purposes to use groups for:

- When combining instruments it comes in very handy. I often do that to get
fat layered sounds. But well, often one instrument is too loud, so I might
want to reduce the level. Pretty much a timeconsuming job when doing that
for each zone. But because I almost allways have all my zones assigned to
groups (which will automatically be copied with the zones) I can just alter
the level of the groups.

- I often use two (or even more) layers of the same zone (again to get a
fatter sound), just that I might detune the doubled zones. These can now be
panned and levelled easily using groups. I wish there was a tuning parameter
directly on groups, would make such jobs way easier to accomplish. Or well,
editing of multiple zones would just do the same... I hope this will come
soon.

- Filter and ADSR offset. Only available for groups. Pretty great to get
more interesting sounds. I might use one layer plain while another layer
will run through some Filter/ADSR offset.

Regards,
Sascha

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