EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

David Tobin wrote:
> How is everybody finding changes to the EXS - Does it seem any different?

Not much, apart from the VSM thing (which is workin pretty nice over here,
just that I don't have much use for it).
The major drawbacks still are there - but I guess Clemens (Homburg, EXS
programmer) was busy doing a lot of other things regarding Logic's audio
engine. I still hope for a major EXS update more or less soon.

> Are there any changes in the way that disks are imported?

Not that I know of. But well, I don't own many AKAI disks either, so I can't
tell.

> How are people finding the usage of REX file imports into the EXS?

Actually, it's nothing one couldn't have done before, using ReCycle's
SF2+MIDI export, but it's pretty much more comfortable now. In the meantime
I got like around 200 EXS'ed "general purpose" loops that I allready used a
lot (and, best of all, my copy of ReCycle just arrived an hour ago, so now I
will have quite some more loops pretty soon).

Here's a little tip about file organisation (at least this works very well
for me):
I do have three identical folder structures on my HD.
1) The original folders with the REX files in them
2) A subfolder of Logic's "Sampler Instruments" directory, just containing
the same subfolders as in 1).
3) A subfolder of my "EXS samples" directory, again containing the same
subfolders.

Setting it up like this and maintaining the structure is quite some work as
I allways have to edit all patches I imported to the EXS and do a "move
audiofiles", but I'm sure it will pay off in the end as I will never have to
worry about where things are. And well, I really don't care about the
"wasted" space having each file somewhat twice.
Now, what I do when selecting a loop is the following:
- Open the EXS instance I want to use.
- Select an audiotrack and open the "import audio" box (usually using
Shift+Pen in the arrange). This allows previewing recycled loops in the
current's song tempo.
- When "stumbling" over a loop I like, I just select the same loop in the
EXS. Don't know what it's like on Macs, but on Windows you can do that
without closing the "import audio" dialog box, so I can just continue
searching my REX library while the loop I like the most is allready selected
in the EXS. When being done I just press "Cancel" in the audio import box
and extract the appropriate MIDI sequence from the EXS.

As said, until now this approach has worked pretty great for me.

Allright, on to recycling quite some more loops, finally in my own
environment :-)

Cheers,
Sascha

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In a message dated 2/20/02 2:59:30 PM, pbuckle@... writes:

>Those Propellerhead guys are so incredibly focused. A good piece of work
>like that just lifts everybody's horizon.  And they also made Reason and
>Rebirth. How great are those people?

They rock heavily indeed!

-EP

on 21/2/02 3:26 AM, Sascha Franck at saschafranck@... wrote:

> 
>> How are people finding the usage of REX file imports into the EXS?
> 


> - Select an audiotrack and open the "import audio" box (usually using
> Shift+Pen in the arrange). This allows previewing recycled loops in the
> current's song tempo.

Sascha, this function alone is worth the price of entry. "This allows
previewing recycled loops in the current songs tempo"
Those are mighty sweet words to my ears.

I'm assuming that this is a new feature in 5.0 because if it has been
possible before and I didn't know about it.............then............I'm
going to have to kill you :-)

> - When "stumbling" over a loop I like, I just select the same loop in the
> EXS. Don't know what it's like on Macs, but on Windows you can do that
> without closing the "import audio" dialog box, so I can just continue
> searching my REX library while the loop I like the most is allready selected
> in the EXS. When being done I just press "Cancel" in the audio import box
> and extract the appropriate MIDI sequence from the EXS.
> 
> As said, until now this approach has worked pretty great for me.
> 
> Allright, on to recycling quite some more loops, finally in my own
> environment :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Sascha

Ah Recycle 2! Every once in a long while an application comes along that is
so well thought out and so powerful that it's a pleasure  just to boot it.
Those Propellerhead guys are so incredibly focused. A good piece of work
like that just lifts everybody's horizon.  And they also made Reason and
Rebirth. How great are those people?
Phil Buckle.

Phil Buckle wrote:
> Sascha, this function alone is worth the price of entry. "This allows
> previewing recycled loops in the current songs tempo"
> Those are mighty sweet words to my ears.

Yeah, that's a REALLY neat thing.

> I'm assuming that this is a new feature in 5.0 because if it has been
> possible before and I didn't know about it.............then............I'm
> going to have to kill you :-)

Hah! You can relax. As REX support is only available in 5.0 there'd be not
much need for previewing REX files at all in 4.x.

> Ah Recycle 2! Every once in a long while an application comes along that
is
> so well thought out and so powerful that it's a pleasure  just to boot it.
> Those Propellerhead guys are so incredibly focused. A good piece of work
> like that just lifts everybody's horizon.  And they also made Reason and
> Rebirth. How great are those people?

I don't exactly know Reason and I never liked step sequencers so ReBirth was
nothing for me to go for either, but ReCycle is just kickass.

Regards,
Sascha