EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi everybody,

I have just produced an EXS instrument from my old Hohner Pianet T. 
(For those interested: This is an electric piano I still have from 
the late seventies. It has metallic blades as resonators and pickups 
for every key. The special thing about it is the connection between 
key and the resonators: It doesn't have hammers, but kind of a 
magnetic rubber blocks. The magnets pull up the resonators when you 
hit the key, and the rubber acts as damper when you release. Never 
made a breakthrough compared to the Clavinet D6 - but it was cheaper, 
i.e. within my budget those days.)
The instruments has it's rough edges, and so do the samples - but 
that's what I still like about it.

I'd like distribute this to interested people - giving back a little 
after receiving so much from people on this list. My problem is that 
the compressed instruments with samples is 15MB (Mac .sit) and 19MB 
(PC .zip), and I have a problem putting them somewhere on the web, 
not having enough private web space.
I remember somebody offering to host such samples. If somebody can 
offer this still, please contact me.

Best regards, Thomas

P.S.: These are all produced by myself with software I own and from 
hardware I also own ;-)

> I have just produced an EXS instrument from my old Hohner 
Pianet T. 
 My problem is that 
> the compressed instruments with samples is 15MB (Mac .sit) 
and 19MB 
> (PC .zip), and I have a problem putting them somewhere on 
the web, 
> not having enough private web space.

Hey Thomas!
that sounds great, and as i know that Pianet is a very rare 
instrument nowadays. I would love to listen to that samples! 

If you are a mac user, have you already set up your iDrive 
(www.apple.com) ? Its a virtual 25MB drive on the net, and has a 
public folder for files to share. All my macintosh friends can 
unstuff zipped files, i.e. if I was you I would just put the zipped file 
right there. I used also xdrive (www.xdrive) in the past, but I heard 
they are charging for their service now.

Cheers- Steven

--- In exs-users@y..., "stevensugar" <stevensugar@y...> wrote:
> Hey Thomas!
> that sounds great, and as i know that Pianet is a very rare 
> instrument nowadays. I would love to listen to that samples! 
> 
> If you are a mac user, have you already set up your iDrive 
> (www.apple.com) ? Its a virtual 25MB drive on the net, and has a 
> public folder for files to share. All my macintosh friends can 
> unstuff zipped files, i.e. if I was you I would just put the zipped file 
...
> 
> Cheers- Steven

Hi Steven,

good tip! I forgot about this. I have my iDisk set up, but never used 
it really - what an occasion!

So you can find my Pianet samples now on my apple homepage:
http://homepage.mac.com/peitzmann/FileSharing1.html

I figured that wav files would be useful for both PC and Mac users, so, 
as I had only space for either wav or aiff I chose the former. I have 
however not thoroughly tested this version, as I did everything in aiff 
first. So please tell me if there are problems. (You may also tell me 
whether you like it...)

The zip file is 19.2MB, however Apple seems to binhex files in addition 
(which makes it more like 26MB). But I guess you Windows friends can 
deal with that ;-) 

Enjoy! Thomas

Hi Thomas


Very nice. Well done.


Cheers



Guy

Dear List and specifically EP if you are around,

I am about to convert my AKAI GC cd rom into ESX samples and I realize
that no matter what I do I can't figure out how to make the volumes
correspond to the printed documentation.  The volumes don't seem to
correspond to the docs, ie the volumes come up alphabetized in the ESX
convert menu, but in the documentation "jewelz" is the first one on the
list. Thanks for any ideas

Gary Pozner

Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?



on 2/26/02 7:53 AM, peitzma at peitzmann@...-muenster.de wrote:

> I figured that wav files would be useful for both PC and Mac users, so,
> as I had only space for either wav or aiff I chose the former. I have
> however not thoroughly tested this version, as I did everything in aiff
> first. So please tell me if there are problems. (You may also tell me
> whether you like it...)

Thank you, sincerely!

> From: "peitzma" <peitzmann@...-muenster.de>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:53:40 -0000
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [exs] Re: Pianet Samples to share
> 
> --- In exs-users@y..., "stevensugar" <stevensugar@y...> wrote:
>> Hey Thomas!
>> that sounds great, and as i know that Pianet is a very rare
>> instrument nowadays. I would love to listen to that samples!
>> 
>> If you are a mac user, have you already set up your iDrive
>> (www.apple.com) ? Its a virtual 25MB drive on the net, and has a
>> public folder for files to share. All my macintosh friends can
>> unstuff zipped files, i.e. if I was you I would just put the zipped file
> ...
>> 
>> Cheers- Steven
> 
> Hi Steven,
> 
> good tip! I forgot about this. I have my iDisk set up, but never used
> it really - what an occasion!
> 
> So you can find my Pianet samples now on my apple homepage:
> http://homepage.mac.com/peitzmann/FileSharing1.html
> 
> I figured that wav files would be useful for both PC and Mac users, so,
> as I had only space for either wav or aiff I chose the former. I have
> however not thoroughly tested this version, as I did everything in aiff
> first. So please tell me if there are problems. (You may also tell me
> whether you like it...)
> 
> The zip file is 19.2MB, however Apple seems to binhex files in addition
> (which makes it more like 26MB). But I guess you Windows friends can
> deal with that ;-)
> 
> Enjoy! Thomas
> 
> 
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>

NO!

> From: Dan Chapman <dan@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:10:38 -0800
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Re: Pianet Samples to share
> 
> Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?
> 
> 
> 
> on 2/26/02 7:53 AM, peitzma at peitzmann@...-muenster.de wrote:
> 
>> I figured that wav files would be useful for both PC and Mac users, so,
>> as I had only space for either wav or aiff I chose the former. I have
>> however not thoroughly tested this version, as I did everything in aiff
>> first. So please tell me if there are problems. (You may also tell me
>> whether you like it...)
> 
> 
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> 
>

Thomas,
Really like the rubber reflex testing hammer sound/feel.Top stuff.Thanks.
 It will now become part of the ongoing exs users shared things track
(snappy title) that I have nearly finished.

Paul.
-- 
Paul Crouch,
basses played while you wait
1, Hogs Edge,
Brighton,
BN2 4NQ,
U.K.

You may need to change the file type / creator code of the .EXS file. I will
post a drag & drop type changer to my Web site at
http://MusicBootCamp.com/exs24.shtml where you can download the app for Mac
and do this by dragging the EXS24 file to the changer app. -Jer

> From: Dan Chapman <dan@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:10:38 -0800
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Re: Pianet Samples to share
> 
> Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?
> 
> 
> 
> on 2/26/02 7:53 AM, peitzma at peitzmann@...-muenster.de wrote:
> 
>> I figured that wav files would be useful for both PC and Mac users, so,
>> as I had only space for either wav or aiff I chose the former. I have
>> however not thoroughly tested this version, as I did everything in aiff
>> first. So please tell me if there are problems. (You may also tell me
>> whether you like it...)
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> 
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> 
> 
>

Repost with new subject header:

You may need to change the file type / creator code of the .EXS file. I will
post a drag & drop type changer to my Web site at
http://MusicBootCamp.com/exs24.shtml where you can download the app for Mac
and do this by dragging the EXS24 file to the changer app. -Jer

> Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?

Mine didn't need converting, why, as a matter of interest?
Paul.
G4 450 Dual LAMG 768 AW8
OS 9.2
--
Paul Crouch
horselesspaul 
music to watch grills by

--- In exs-users@y..., <HELP@M...> wrote:
>  You may need to change the file type / creator code of the .EXS file. I will
>  post a drag & drop type changer to my Web site at
>  http://MusicBootCamp.com/exs24.shtml where you can download the app for Mac
>  and do this by dragging the EXS24 file to the changer app. -Jer
>
>  > From: Dan Chapman <dan@c...>
>  > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>  > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:10:38 -0800
>  > To: <exs-users@y...>
>  > Subject: Re: [exs] Re: Pianet Samples to share
>  >
>  > Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?
>  >

The .EXS file was created on the Mac, so it should work there without 
any changes. And no, .wav should work on the Mac also without 
converting.

Thomas

I didn't mean to imply that there definitely was a compatibility problem
with regard to the recent EXS post. But many times, I have downloaded kits
from the internet that did not function without Creator/Type conversion. I
offered this utility as a general tool, not as a specific requirement for
this particular situation. I've had to use this at times when copying
instruments on a client's PC to their Mac and in one case after converting
samples with Translator and moving them to the Mac (the Translator issue may
not be a problem in general but it was an issue in one situation). My
original post stated the appropriate answer to the question of WAVs on a
Mac. I us Mac folks can read WAVs (PC EXS users can use AIFFs too). However,
I'm sure the utility I offered will come in handy in the future for some
people.

> From: "Paul C." <horseless.paul@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:17:28 +0000
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] PC to Mac EXS24 Utility
> 
> Mine didn't need converting, why, as a matter of interest?
> Paul.
> G4 450 Dual LAMG 768 AW8
> OS 9.2
> --
> Paul Crouch
> horselesspaul 
> music to watch grills by
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> 
>

--- In exs-users@y..., Thomas Peitzmann <peitzmann@i...> 
wrote:> >
Thank you for this fantastic sound! It is really original and great! 
Thnx

STEVEN

> I didn't mean to imply that there definitely was a compatibility problem
> with regard to the recent EXS post. But many times, I have downloaded kits
> from the internet that did not function without Creator/Type conversion. I
> offered this utility as a general tool, not as a specific requirement for
> this particular situation. I've had to use this at times when copying
> instruments on a client's PC to their Mac and in one case after converting
> samples with Translator and moving them to the Mac (the Translator issue may
> not be a problem in general but it was an issue in one situation). My
> original post stated the appropriate answer to the question of WAVs on a
> Mac. I us Mac folks can read WAVs (PC EXS users can use AIFFs too). However,
> I'm sure the utility I offered will come in handy in the future for some
> people.

Thanks for the tip and the utility,
Paul.

I have added another useful utility for Mac users at
http://MusicBootCamp.com/EXS24.shtml

Invisible File Copier: This nifty utility allows Mac users to view
Type/Creator codes of existing files (any kind), change those codes, view
invisible files, make invisible files visible and visa versa.

THANKS!

on 2/26/02 10:40 AM, HELP@... at HELP@... wrote:

> NO!
> 
>> From: Dan Chapman <dan@...>
>> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:10:38 -0800
>> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [exs] Re: Pianet Samples to share
>> 
>> Is it necessary to convert the .wav file to .aiff to use it on Mac?
>>

Hey, great stuff!
Just finished downloading (what a pain to wait if you're on a modem) and
loading, only played a few note, but so far I love that oldfashoned sound a
lot!

Thanks a lot, Thomas!

Sascha

--- In exs-users@y..., "Gary Pozner" <garypozner@w...> wrote:
> no matter what I do I can't figure out how to make the volumes
> correspond to the printed documentation.  The volumes don't seem to
> correspond to the docs, ie the volumes come up alphabetized in the 
ESX
> convert menu, but in the documentation "jewelz" is the first one on 
the list.

2 ideas: (1) Name them 001-Jewelz, 002-FooBar, etc., to match the 
documentation, or,
(2) Name them 062-Jewelz, 066-Funky, 092-Laidback, using the BPM 
tempo of the original. I think that is how Eric organizes them anyway.
EXS will sort by the first letters or numbers of the name.

(Names of loops impersonated...)

BTW, I have Methamorphosis AKAI EXS-ed, and I love it! The tempo-
matched menu patches are an endless source of inspiration. And the 
fidelity is simply perfect. Thank you Eric P. (Don't even get me 
started on how cool Groove Control is...)

Scott

P.S. Eric, if you are lurking...whatever happened to the 'Brazil' 
library with Alex. I assume that there is some sort of a 
percussive 'Instrument' heading our way???

I didn't realize that the file naming convention is case sensitive. For the
two utilities I spoke of, please visit http://MusicBootCamp.com/exs24.shtml

-Jer

> I have added another useful utility for Mac users at
> http://MusicBootCamp.com/EXS24.shtml
> 
> Invisible File Copier: This nifty utility allows Mac users to view
> Type/Creator codes of existing files (any kind), change those codes, view
> invisible files, make invisible files visible and visa versa.

on 2/27/02 8:38 AM, PersingEP@... at PersingEP@... wrote:


>> P.S. Eric, if you are lurking...whatever happened to the 'Brazil'
>> library with Alex. I assume that there is some sort of a
>> percussive 'Instrument' heading our way???
> 
> You'll see....Brazilian's on hold for the time being, but all of that
> material and much more will be released in a future product...patience......


Eric,

Completely unfair!!!  Teasing is not allowed. ;^)

On a more serious note, I hope you do reconsider releasing further GC
titles, ie: Brazilian Beats. As happy as I am with the RetroFunk & BackBeat
CDs, one of the reasons I bought into the GC concept was the planned Latin
percussion disk(s). While there may be advances in your virtual instruments
that carry beyond what you can do w/EXS & GC, I do hope you consider
finishing off the original classic drumming trilogy of disks.

Regards,

   Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...
sfawkes@...



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In a message dated 2/26/02 3:22:35 PM, scott_yahoo@... writes:

>--- In exs-users@y..., "Gary Pozner" <garypozner@w...> wrote:
>> no matter what I do I can't figure out how to make the volumes
>> correspond to the printed documentation.  The volumes don't seem to
>> correspond to the docs, ie the volumes come up alphabetized in the 
>ESX
>> convert menu, but in the documentation "jewelz" is the first one on 
>the list.
>
>2 ideas: (1) Name them 001-Jewelz, 002-FooBar, etc., to match the 
>documentation, or,
>(2) Name them 062-Jewelz, 066-Funky, 092-Laidback, using the BPM 
>tempo of the original. I think that is how Eric organizes them anyway.
>EXS will sort by the first letters or numbers of the name.
>
>(Names of loops impersonated...)

That's the right answer.

>
>BTW, I have Methamorphosis AKAI EXS-ed, and I love it! The tempo-
>matched menu patches are an endless source of inspiration. And the 
>fidelity is simply perfect. Thank you Eric P. (Don't even get me 
>started on how cool Groove Control is...)

Thanks Scott...if you dig those aspects of MM you'll flip over Stylus...we 
expanded the menu concept and broke it down to EVERY tempo, with Swing 
versions and percussion menus too! You can filter and tweak each loop key 
independantly just by touching the keys and changing the sliders in Zone Edit 
mode....really creative and fast way to customize the grooves. And of course 
all memorized by your Logic song!

>
>Scott
>
>P.S. Eric, if you are lurking...whatever happened to the 'Brazil' 
>library with Alex. I assume that there is some sort of a 
>percussive 'Instrument' heading our way???

You'll see....Brazilian's on hold for the time being, but all of that 
material and much more will be released in a future product...patience......

In a message dated 2/27/02 7:30:09 AM, sfawkes@... writes:

>Completely unfair!!!  Teasing is not allowed. ;^)

Hey...you asked!!
;-)

>
>On a more serious note, I hope you do reconsider releasing further GC
>titles, ie: Brazilian Beats. As happy as I am with the RetroFunk & BackBeat
>CDs, one of the reasons I bought into the GC concept was the planned Latin
>percussion disk(s). While there may be advances in your virtual instruments
>that carry beyond what you can do w/EXS & GC, I do hope you consider
>finishing off the original classic drumming trilogy of disks.

Don't worry...GC is a major part of our future plans and all of that material 
you want and much more will be released. Just don't hold your breath for more 
Spectrasonics sample libraries, the whole idea of the VIs is that we can 
offer a MUCH better product, value and musical experience in an instrument 
than we could ever do with sample libraries and the limitations of all the 
current samplers and compatibility nightmares.

-EP

Dear Eric,

So your saying to get the exs to read the files in some usable order I
will have to rename everyone??

Thanks 

gary

> 
> In a message dated 2/27/02 7:30:09 AM, sfawkes@... writes:
> 
>> Completely unfair!!!  Teasing is not allowed. ;^)
> 
> Hey...you asked!!
> ;-)
> 
>> 
>> On a more serious note, I hope you do reconsider releasing further GC
>> titles, ie: Brazilian Beats. As happy as I am with the RetroFunk & BackBeat
>> CDs, one of the reasons I bought into the GC concept was the planned Latin
>> percussion disk(s). While there may be advances in your virtual instruments
>> that carry beyond what you can do w/EXS & GC, I do hope you consider
>> finishing off the original classic drumming trilogy of disks.
> 
> Don't worry...GC is a major part of our future plans and all of that material
> you want and much more will be released. Just don't hold your breath for more
> Spectrasonics sample libraries, the whole idea of the VIs is that we can
> offer a MUCH better product, value and musical experience in an instrument
> than we could ever do with sample libraries and the limitations of all the
> current samplers and compatibility nightmares.
> 

Eric

I'm a dedicated Spectrasonics fan (as you may know), but I have never tried
Metamorphosis, and I am considering its purchase.

How would you describe it, and in what genres of music do you feel it sits
most comfortably?

(anyone else as well!!!)

David Tobin

In a message dated 2/27/02 3:23:51 PM, garypozner@... writes:

>Dear Eric,
>
>So your saying to get the exs to read the files in some usable order I
>will have to rename everyone??
>
>Thanks 
>
>gary


Yep...don't blame me though..blame Akai for having only 12 character names!

-EP

In a message dated 2/27/02 6:10:34 PM, wowandflutter@... writes:

>I'm a dedicated Spectrasonics fan (as you may know), but I have never tried
>Metamorphosis, and I am considering its purchase.
>
>How would you describe it, and in what genres of music do you feel it sits
>most comfortably?
>
>(anyone else as well!!!)
>
>David Tobin

If you ever have a need for a "non-acoustic" groove that's more creative and 
processed that would describe it. It sort of starts where the grooves on DR 
left off. Lots of unique sounding stuff, but I put a lot of effort in making 
them useful and musical. It is our most popular product at the moment and 
most-likely the #1 selling CD-ROM on the market in 2001. You can do some 
wonderful things with it when combined with BB, RF, LG, and the ILIO GC 
titles.

The demos, quotes and reviews on this page will give you a better idea of 
what it's about than my ramblings:

http://www.spectrasonics.net/libraries/metamorphosis.html


All the best,

EP

Actually Gary...a quick way to do it is to copy and paste the names of the 
midi files to replace the sampler instruments names..then use Drop Rename of 
NAME It to remove the .mid or change it to .exs.

Still got to do it a file at a time, but it's faster than typing!

-EP

In a message dated 2/27/02 6:21:31 PM, PersingEP@... writes:

>>Dear Eric,
>>
>>So your saying to get the exs to read the files in some usable order I
>>will have to rename everyone??
>>
>>Thanks 
>>
>>gary
>
>
>Yep...don't blame me though..blame Akai for having only 12 character names!