EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

HELP@...  wrote:
  >I recommend you take this opportunity to contact Apple and
  >express you opinion on the matter

    Where exactly would we contact apple or send an e-mail of discontent? Thanks!!

    --Roger
    


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Hi,

HELP@MusicBootCamp wrote,
> I have it from a reliable source that Apple is reconsidering the decision to
> pull development for Logic's PC clients. That doesn't mean it's definite,
> but it is a possibility. 

IMHO, the damage has been done.  With Apple's "Switch" program and their 
initial decision to drop PC development of Logic Audio, I don't believe that a 
reverse decision will last long-term.  Even though they may continue 
development, it would only be a matter of time before they would decide to drop 
it again (ie when they've convinced enough LAWyers to switch to LAM.  
Ultimately, they do want people on the Mac, not running Windows PC's.  I can't 
help but think that at some point, more features will be implemented in LAM 
that won't make it into LAW.  This may make it harder to collaborate with other 
people and require special workarounds.

I, for one, will be deciding on my future sequencer platform as if PC 
development is completely dropped.  By the time the next paid upgrade for Logic 
Audio comes around, I'll be deciding whether I'm switching to a Mac and LAM or 
if I am going Cubase SX.  In the meantime, I'll probably pick up a copy of 
Cubase SX anyway and begin playing around with it.  If I go Cubase, I'll miss 
the exs-24 quite a bit.  There are some interface quirks and it could be a bit 
more flexible (to more accurately import some hardware sampler's banks like E-
mu and Roland) but it is very CPU efficient, loads sample programs quickly and 
works extremely well for sounds not requiring a lot of synthesis.  I use it 
mainly for drums and bass sounds although I do also use it for some guitars and 
orchestral instruments as well.

Anyway, sorry to ramble a bit.  I have appreciated a lot of the thoughtful and 
non-inflammatory posting lately as well.

Fernstudio

HELP@... wrote:
> 
> I have it from a reliable source that Apple is reconsidering the decision to
> pull development for Logic's PC clients. That doesn't mean it's definite,
> but it is a possibility. I highly recommend that all of the PC users out
> there wait at least until the release of 5.2 before spending a bunch of
> money on Cubase. Apple is feeling the backlash of it's early intentions. I
> personally believe that the damage to collaborative efforts between PC and
> Mac users has a lot to do with this development. Do not jump to Cubase in a
> frantic move until you can be certain that Apple is firm on its decision.
> The jury is out. I recommend you take this opportunity to contact Apple and
> express you opinion on the matter.


I hope you sent that to the LUG list as well! :-)

Fernstudio wrote:
> 
> IMHO, the damage has been done.  With Apple's "Switch" program and their
> initial decision to drop PC development of Logic Audio, I don't believe that a
> reverse decision will last long-term.  Even though they may continue
> development, it would only be a matter of time before they would decide to drop
> it again (ie when they've convinced enough LAWyers to switch to LAM.
> Ultimately, they do want people on the Mac, not running Windows PC's.  I can't
> help but think that at some point, more features will be implemented in LAM
> that won't make it into LAW.  This may make it harder to collaborate with other
> people and require special workarounds.

I agree...
 
> I, for one, will be deciding on my future sequencer platform as if PC
> development is completely dropped.  By the time the next paid upgrade for Logic
> Audio comes around, I'll be deciding whether I'm switching to a Mac and LAM or
> if I am going Cubase SX. 

... but if the ghosts of rumours about OS X for PC turn into reality...(!!!)...

> In the meantime, I'll probably pick up a copy of
> Cubase SX anyway and begin playing around with it. 

... many Logic-to-SX convertees will be glad Steinberg let them keep Logic!

... (and Apple would probably start selling expensive, high-quality,
innovative Intel/AMD-powered boxes.)

Just my AU$0.04 (= US$0.02)

> Where exactly would we contact apple or send an e-mail of discontent? Thanks!!
> 
> --Roger

You could try public relations. It's as good a place as any I guess. It
least it's high up the chain and might get their attention. I got this list
on the Apple web site accompanying one of the articles... lfox@...

You might include concern for the valid points made to this list by
Fernstudio. It is important that support for both platforms be specific. I
recommend underscoring the need for cross-platform compatibility, the
importance of collaboration, and equal speed of development. Enhancements to
the Mac version shouldn't make it impossible to port a song to the PC and
visa versa.

My dream would be dual support and development with major strides made on
the Mac in OSX to compete with the faster processing speed of the the Athlon
and Intel chips, without compromising cross-platform synchronicity and
function... faster MIDI, more efficient DSP management, etc. These are all
things that could be improved on the Mac without destroying cross-platform
compatibility.

>> I have it from a reliable source that Apple is reconsidering the decision to
>> pull development for Logic's PC clients. That doesn't mean it's definite,
>> but it is a possibility. I highly recommend that all of the PC users out
>> there wait at least until the release of 5.2 before spending a bunch of
>> money on Cubase. Apple is feeling the backlash of it's early intentions. I
>> personally believe that the damage to collaborative efforts between PC and
>> Mac users has a lot to do with this development. Do not jump to Cubase in a
>> frantic move until you can be certain that Apple is firm on its decision.
>> The jury is out. I recommend you take this opportunity to contact Apple and
>> express you opinion on the matter.
> 

I'm not a list member. Pass it on.

> Just my AU$0.04 (= US$0.02)

LOL