SoftSynth Central
2003-01-03 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>
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2003-01-03 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>
Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/ There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with experience of different software. Could be useful, I think, Regards, Erk
2003-01-03 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or VST and pick an operating system. I for one will upgrade to OSX Logic as soon as possible, so that group is only useful to me as a Mac Audio Units group. I don't think I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of VST/PC topics that I can't do anything with. Just my thoughts anyway. The idea is a good one.
> Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for > softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/ > > There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out > the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing > it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with > experience of different software. > > Could be useful, I think, > Regards, Erk > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-03 by Ned Bouhalassa
I don't want to rain on Erk's parade, but I just go and visit K-v-R's
forums everyday and I get plenty of discussions of the very latest in
softsynths. Most of the programmers/companies participate in the
discussions as well:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/
Ned
> > Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for
> > softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/
> >
> > There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out
> > the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing
> > it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with
> > experience of different software.
> >
> > Could be useful, I think,
> > Regards, Erk
http://www.nedfx.com
Ned Bouhalassa
n e d @ n e d f x . c o m2003-01-03 by Michael Gerdau
>My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or VST and >pick an operating system. Please don't. >I for one will upgrade to OSX Logic as soon as possible, That means you should have done so already... Besides: not everybody shares your view w/r to this topic. No need to sound patronizing to those of a different view (and please no platform war !) >so that group is only useful to me as a Mac Audio Units group. I think that's more or less nonsense. Erk wrote about finding a "general-purpose discussion group for softsynth issues". To me this sounds pretty much void of OS issues. >I don't think I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of >VST/PC topics that I can't do anything with. Please not again !!! On the Logic-Users-Group we've learned over long years that PC and Mac users can help each others out in a lot of questions just nicely. And for the most part the LUG was and is better of with both around. Besides: such a group would be a home for Cubase OSX users with VST as well. Following your line of reasoning those should be shut out. Been there. Don't want it. No, thank you. My view. Best, Michael -- Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: mgd@... I used to be computer illiterate. Then I dumped Windows! GPG/PGP-keys available on request or at public keyserver
2003-01-04 by Paul Martinson
For those of you who don't all ready know about this site, check it out! It's great for all platforms: http://www.kvr-vst.com/ >From: "Eric Baird <eric_baird@...>" <eric_baird@...> >Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [exs] SoftSynth Central >Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 22:03:54 -0000 > >Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for >softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/ > >There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out >the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing >it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with >experience of different software. > >Could be useful, I think, >Regards, Erk > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
2003-01-04 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>
Oh, OK, I didn't know about that one. <thinks> Is there any reason why that site isn't listed in the links pages of any of the Yahoo softsynth groups I searched, including this one? Is it supposed to be a big secret or something? :-) <looks at the KVR site some more> Hmm, it does seem to be a little complicated, and there do seem to be some odd omissions ... for instance, in their listing of "Official Company Forums" they seem to completely miss out all the Native Instruments ones, and NI aren't exactly an obscure company as far as softsynths are concerned, while they do seem to have support info for a lot of the little obscure companies (who seem to advertise with them). The section doesn't list the official Steinberg forums either. Hmm. ... and the KVR site didn't seem to show up when I did some fairly extensive search engine trawls for this sort of thing ... (looks at the KVR site source code) ... oh right, that's why, they did all the flashy javascript stuff but forgot to put in any search engine keywords or descriptions via the "Meta" tag feature that's meant for that (oops). Ho hum. And I did a quick site search for "exs-users" and got no matches, so they don't seem to give any indication that THIS group exists ... Maybe there's still a niche here that's worth filling, perhaps I'll keep the "SoftSynth Central" Yahoo group in place for a month or so, and see what happens. --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote: > I don't want to rain on Erk's parade, but I just go and visit K-v- R's > forums everyday and I get plenty of discussions of the very latest in
> softsynths. Most of the programmers/companies participate in the > discussions as well: > > http://www.kvr-vst.com/ >
2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Geez man, you took me completely wrong. Perhaps it is me whose being short-sighted, but I wasn't being condescending. And it wasn't an attempt at a platform war by any measure. I meant that it would be frustrating to hear about a bunch of stuff I couldn't use as a user on OSX Mac. That's not to say it doesn't deserve attention. In fact, I wasn't saying anything wrong about PCs at all. I don't buy pottery magazine because I don't use them; not for any lack of respect for people who make pots. I use this metaphor only to point out that I probably wouldn't participate in a forum that was predominately about softsynths I couldn't use (judging from your response, that might make you happier). I just meant that it wouldn't help me as a Logic user. You're drawing conclusions I definitely wasn't insinuating. If I have offended anyone one this list, I apologize. I talk a lot (not to hear myself). I just really like this forum and feel at ease sharing my thoughts. For those of you who think of me as arrogant, that's not my personality and I hope you'll try to see my remarks in a different light. I am always open to rebuttal and don't consider my word to be the last word at any point. Wow, patronizing... that's not where my head is at, man!
> That means you should have done so already... > Besides: not everybody shares your view w/r to this topic. No need > to sound patronizing to those of a different view (and please no > platform war !)
2003-01-04 by Sascha Franck
<eric_baird@...> wrote: > Is there any reason why that site isn't listed in the links pages of > any of the Yahoo softsynth groups I searched, including this one? > Is it supposed to be a big secret or something? :-) I allways thought K-v-R was rather popular... it has even been listed as a surftip in some magazines. > Hmm, it does seem to be a little complicated, and there do seem to be > some odd omissions ... for instance, in their listing of "Official > Company Forums" they seem to completely miss out all the Native > Instruments ones, and NI aren't exactly an obscure company as far as > softsynths are concerned, while they do seem to have support info for > a lot of the little obscure companies (who seem to advertise with > them). The section doesn't list the official Steinberg forums either. > Hmm. Thing is, these company forums are for the "small" (one or two persons) companies that can't afford running (and maintaining) an extra forum at their own sites - or that prefer to have one common public place. Actually a good thing. OTOH, I am sure if, say, N.I. wanted, they could have a support forum there as well, it just seems they prefer to run their own. > ... and the KVR site didn't seem to show up when I did some fairly > extensive search engine trawls for this sort of thing ... (looks at > the KVR site source code) ... oh right, that's why, they did all the > flashy javascript stuff but forgot to put in any search engine > keywords or descriptions via the "Meta" tag feature that's meant for > that (oops). > Ho hum. All seems to depend on the keywoards. "VSTi support" entered to Google brought it up as the 4th hit. "Softsynth support" however didn't bring it up at all. > And I did a quick site search for "exs-users" and got no matches, so > they don't seem to give any indication that THIS group exists ... Hm, yeah... maybe they should have a section for mailing lists. But maybe that would just defeat the purpose of running a forum based site. > Maybe there's still a niche here that's worth filling, perhaps I'll > keep the "SoftSynth Central" Yahoo group in place for a month or so, > and see what happens. I'll join in any case and see what happens too :-) Apart from that, a few words about K-v-R: The community there in general is nice, but you certainly have to take everything you're reading there with a grain of salt. The reviews for instance very often are shamelessly praising some things (at least if you ask me) so you better learn to read between the lines (well, as with any reviews...). Still, I think the site is the most up to date one when it comes to softsynth news. Regards, Sascha
2003-01-04 by Murray McDowall
I found some pretty decent guitar samples at: http://kontakt.daw-mac.com/ They are in the Sample Library -- Guitars section: Guild F47 Acoustic Guitar and Guild F47 harmonics These were provided by David Das and come with a set of Kontact presets which my PC version of Kontact was unable to open. (I am not sure what the problem with his instruments (both guitars and also his drydrums kit). Perhaps the path length for the sample location encoded in these is too large or something. Adding .nki usually does the trick but not for these. If anyone can get these going I would like to try them with Kontact.) Anyway -- I built some exs instruments with the included audio samples which some might find useful. They are on the files area at yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/files/ Download the sit archives from kontact.daw-mac.com and the exs files from yahoo and follow the directions in the readme if you are new to this stuff. Regards, Murray
2003-01-04 by Michael Gerdau
>Geez man, you took me completely wrong. In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting. Best, Michael -- Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: mgd@... C:\WINDOWS\WIN.DEX with Ammonia-D helps keep your Windows sparkling GPG/PGP-keys available on request or at public keyserver
2003-01-04 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>
That's a good idea - why not start a special group just for discussion of OSX "Audio Units" issues? That way, OSX people would have a single place to look when they want to know what new AU instruments are avalable, without having to wade through a pile of VST stuff. It only takes a few minutes to set one of these things up once you've thought of a catchy name (or just call it "AudioUnits" or "OSXAudioUnits" or something). Include lots of appropriate keywords in the group description so that people can find it on the indexes, put in a logo, and then tell people its there. (OK, I committed a major crime by not putting a logo on SSC group, but that's cos I set it up a few hours after first having the idea, and I was feeling uninspired). Want me to set up an AU group for you? --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, <HELP@M...> wrote: > My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or > VST and pick an operating system. I for one will upgrade to > OSX Logic as soon as possible, so that group is only useful > to me as a Mac Audio Units group. I don't think > I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of VST/PC topics that I can't > do anything with. Just my thoughts anyway. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/
2003-01-04 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer
Great!! Can they be used for PC also?? :-)) // Kim
-----Original Message----- From: Murray McDowall [mailto:murraymc@...] Sent: 4. januar 2003 10:38 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments I found some pretty decent guitar samples at: http://kontakt.daw-mac.com/ They are in the Sample Library -- Guitars section: Guild F47 Acoustic Guitar and Guild F47 harmonics These were provided by David Das and come with a set of Kontact presets which my PC version of Kontact was unable to open. (I am not sure what the problem with his instruments (both guitars and also his drydrums kit). Perhaps the path length for the sample location encoded in these is too large or something. Adding .nki usually does the trick but not for these. If anyone can get these going I would like to try them with Kontact.) Anyway -- I built some exs instruments with the included audio samples which some might find useful. They are on the files area at yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/files/ Download the sit archives from kontact.daw-mac.com and the exs files from yahoo and follow the directions in the readme if you are new to this stuff. Regards, Murray To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com For a list of places to get free samples please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-01-04 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer
(I dont have Kontakt so I'm glad you've done the EXS-version ;-) Great! I'm gonna download and play then :-)) Thanks!
-----Original Message----- From: Murray McDowall [mailto:murraymc@...] Sent: 4. januar 2003 17:13 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments At 04:50 PM 1/4/03 +0100, you wrote: > > Great!! > > Can they be used for PC also?? The exs instruments in the zip archive I uploaded to Yahoo Groups were made on a PC and will work on either platform. The Kontact presets/instruments in the .sit archives at kontact.daw-mac.com I could not load on my PC version of Kontact -- "unknown error". Regards, Murray To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com For a list of places to get free samples please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-01-04 by Murray McDowall
At 04:50 PM 1/4/03 +0100, you wrote: > > Great!! > > Can they be used for PC also?? The exs instruments in the zip archive I uploaded to Yahoo Groups were made on a PC and will work on either platform. The Kontact presets/instruments in the .sit archives at kontact.daw-mac.com I could not load on my PC version of Kontact -- "unknown error". Regards, Murray
2003-01-04 by teddybut
<HELP@...> wrote: > Geez man, you took me completely wrong. Perhaps it is me whose being > short-sighted, but I wasn't being condescending. <snipped> > If I have offended anyone one this list, I apologize. I talk a lot (not to > hear myself). I just really like this forum and feel at ease sharing my > thoughts. For those of you who think of me as arrogant, that's not my > personality and I hope you'll try to see my remarks in a different light. I > am always open to rebuttal and don't consider my word to be the last word at > any point. Wow, patronizing... that's not where my head is at, man! You are one of my favorite people on this list. Don't worry you weren't being patronizing. Michael Gerdau, however, seems to me as an observer, to be kind of an overly politically correct guy in his response to you... and yet he's got this awfully arrogant/old joke moniker, dissing Windows, and it changes every time he writes, so he must be really wanting to put forth the impression that he is anti windows. He spends time on it.... the evidence is below: >>> My view. Best, >>> Michael >>> I used to be computer illiterate. Then I dumped Windows! Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before accusing you! teddybut
2003-01-04 by teddybut
> Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before > accusing you! > > teddybut > >>> Geez man, you took me completely wrong. >> >> In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting. >> >> Best, >> Michael I see the accuser has looked at himself, after his unreasonable accusation... congratulations. teddybut
2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
I know you can easily find all AU instruments (or VST and more) at vst-kvr.com by several methods (free, commercial and under development), but the benefit of discussion is obvious when you look at this EXS24 list. We get links to new sound sources all the time, which is great. So I'm thinking... I'm going to eventually have a lot of audio unit instruments and plugins. It would be really cool of there was one place for ongoing discussion for that specific host technology, where notification of new patches for various plugins that I will have can be downloaded like we download EXS24 kits. That's not to say PC/VST users shouldn't also do the same. To be clear, I don't want to segregate all of us. After all, we'll still be hanging on this list because of the EXS.
> That's a good idea - why not start a special group just for > discussion of OSX "Audio Units" issues? That way, OSX people would > have a single place to look when they want to know what new AU > instruments are avalable, without having to wade through a pile of > VST stuff.
2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
No, I already run a couple groups, so it would be easy for me. I'd like to wait until there's more out there to discuss. For now, the easiest thing is to check out osxaudio.com or kvr-vst.com. Perhaps in a few months I'll consider it, specifically when I can upgrade to OSX. That will be when my UAD-1, reFX, and others support AU. Can't wait! > Want me to set up an AU group for you?
2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Yes... and they all lived happily ever after! ;)
> >> Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before >> accusing you! >> >> teddybut >> >>>> Geez man, you took me completely wrong. >>> >>> In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting. >>> >>> Best, >>> Michael > > I see the accuser has looked at himself, after his unreasonable > accusation... congratulations. > > teddybut > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-01-05 by Kevin McNair
I don't know if this was already mentioned, but http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a OSX/AU plugin focus. I brought up the need for OSX/AU-specific website in the Logic users' group, and this is where I was directed. It has other topics beside plugz, but plugz are covered pretty well. Good site, though K-v-R is still my favorite ;-) Kevin
2003-01-06 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>
Thanks, that does look pretty comprehensive. Adding it to the growing SSC links section ... --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin McNair <kevinmcnair@a...> wrote:
> I don't know if this was already mentioned, but > http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a > OSX/AU plugin focus.
2003-01-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com
Yup, that's the one I mentioned I use in the meantime. -Jer
> Thanks, that does look pretty comprehensive. > Adding it to the growing SSC links section ... > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin McNair <kevinmcnair@a...> > wrote: >> I don't know if this was already mentioned, but >> http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a >> OSX/AU plugin focus. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >