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SoftSynth Central

SoftSynth Central

2003-01-03 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>

Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for 
softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one:

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/

There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out 
the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing 
it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with 
experience of different software. 

Could be useful, I think,
Regards, Erk

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-03 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or VST and pick an
operating system. I for one will upgrade to OSX Logic as soon as possible,
so that group is only useful to me as a Mac Audio Units group. I don't think
I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of VST/PC topics that I can't
do anything with. Just my thoughts anyway. The idea is a good one.
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> Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for
> softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/
> 
> There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out
> the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing
> it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with
> experience of different software.
> 
> Could be useful, I think,
> Regards, Erk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to:
>  exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> For a list of places to get free samples please see:
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-03 by Ned Bouhalassa

I don't want to rain on Erk's parade, but I just go and visit K-v-R's 
forums everyday and I get plenty of discussions of the very latest in 
softsynths. Most of the programmers/companies participate in the 
discussions as well:

http://www.kvr-vst.com/

Ned

>  > Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for
>  > softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one:
>  >
>  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/
>  >
>  > There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out
>  > the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing
>  > it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with
>  > experience of different software.
>  >
>  > Could be useful, I think,
>  > Regards, Erk




http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-03 by Michael Gerdau

>My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or VST and
>pick an operating system.

Please don't.

>I for one will upgrade to OSX Logic as soon as possible,

That means you should have done so already...
Besides: not everybody shares your view w/r to this topic. No need
to sound patronizing to those of a different view (and please no
platform war !)

>so that group is only useful to me as a Mac Audio Units group.

I think that's more or less nonsense. Erk wrote about finding a
"general-purpose discussion group for softsynth issues".

To me this sounds pretty much void of OS issues.

>I don't think I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of
>VST/PC topics that I can't do anything with.

Please not again !!!

On the Logic-Users-Group we've learned over long years that PC and
Mac users can help each others out in a lot of questions just nicely.
And for the most part the LUG was and is better of with both around.

Besides: such a group would be a home for Cubase OSX users with VST
as well. Following your line of reasoning those should be shut out.

Been there. Don't want it. No, thank you.

My view. Best,
Michael
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Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by Paul Martinson

For those of you who don't all ready know about this site, check it out! 
It's great for all platforms:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/



>From: "Eric Baird <eric_baird@...>" <eric_baird@...>
>Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [exs] SoftSynth Central
>Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 22:03:54 -0000
>
>Couldn't seem to find a general-purpose discussion group for
>softsynth issues, so I thought I'd start one:
>
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/
>
>There's no discussions there yet, and I'm still trying to sort out
>the links page. Once its a bit more organised, I'll start announcing
>it on some other groups so we can get a decent mix of people with
>experience of different software.
>
>Could be useful, I think,
>Regards, Erk
>


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Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>

Oh, OK, I didn't know about that one.
<thinks>
Is there any reason why that site isn't listed in the links pages of 
any of the Yahoo softsynth groups I searched, including this one? 
Is it supposed to be a big secret or something? :-)

<looks at the KVR site some more>

Hmm, it does seem to be a little complicated, and there do seem to be 
some odd omissions ... for instance, in their listing of "Official 
Company Forums" they seem to completely miss out all the Native 
Instruments ones, and NI aren't exactly an obscure company as far as 
softsynths are concerned, while they do seem to have support info for 
a lot of the little obscure companies (who seem to advertise with 
them). The section doesn't list the official Steinberg forums either. 
Hmm. 

... and the KVR site didn't seem to show up when I did some fairly 
extensive search engine trawls for this sort of thing ... (looks at 
the KVR site source code) ... oh right, that's why, they did all the 
flashy javascript stuff but forgot to put in any search engine 
keywords or descriptions via the "Meta" tag feature that's meant for 
that (oops). 
Ho hum.   

And I did a quick site search for "exs-users" and got no matches, so 
they don't seem to give any indication that THIS group exists ...

Maybe there's still a niche here that's worth filling, perhaps I'll 
keep the "SoftSynth Central" Yahoo group in place for a month or so,  
and see what happens. 


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote:
> I don't want to rain on Erk's parade, but I just go and visit K-v-
R's 
> forums everyday and I get plenty of discussions of the very latest 
in 
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> softsynths. Most of the programmers/companies participate in the 
> discussions as well:
> 
> http://www.kvr-vst.com/
>

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Geez man, you took me completely wrong. Perhaps it is me whose being
short-sighted, but I wasn't being condescending. And it wasn't an attempt at
a platform war by any measure. I meant that it would be frustrating to hear
about a bunch of stuff I couldn't use as a user on OSX Mac. That's not to
say it doesn't deserve attention. In fact, I wasn't saying anything wrong
about PCs at all. I don't buy pottery magazine because I don't use them; not
for any lack of respect for people who make pots. I use this metaphor only
to point out that I probably wouldn't participate in a forum that was
predominately about softsynths I couldn't use (judging from your response,
that might make you happier). I just meant that it wouldn't help me as a
Logic user. You're drawing conclusions I definitely wasn't insinuating.

If I have offended anyone one this list, I apologize. I talk a lot (not to
hear myself). I just really like this forum and feel at ease sharing my
thoughts. For those of you who think of me as arrogant, that's not my
personality and I hope you'll try to see my remarks in a different light. I
am always open to rebuttal and don't consider my word to be the last word at
any point. Wow, patronizing... that's not where my head is at, man!
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> That means you should have done so already...
> Besides: not everybody shares your view w/r to this topic. No need
> to sound patronizing to those of a different view (and please no
> platform war !)

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by Sascha Franck

<eric_baird@...> wrote:
> Is there any reason why that site isn't listed in the links pages of
> any of the Yahoo softsynth groups I searched, including this one?
> Is it supposed to be a big secret or something? :-)

I allways thought K-v-R was rather popular... it has even been listed as a
surftip in some magazines.

> Hmm, it does seem to be a little complicated, and there do seem to be
> some odd omissions ... for instance, in their listing of "Official
> Company Forums" they seem to completely miss out all the Native
> Instruments ones, and NI aren't exactly an obscure company as far as
> softsynths are concerned, while they do seem to have support info for
> a lot of the little obscure companies (who seem to advertise with
> them). The section doesn't list the official Steinberg forums either.
> Hmm.

Thing is, these company forums are for the "small" (one or two persons)
companies that can't afford running (and maintaining) an extra forum at
their own sites - or that prefer to have one common public place. Actually a
good thing. OTOH, I am sure if, say, N.I. wanted, they could have a support
forum there as well, it just seems they prefer to run their own.

> ... and the KVR site didn't seem to show up when I did some fairly
> extensive search engine trawls for this sort of thing ... (looks at
> the KVR site source code) ... oh right, that's why, they did all the
> flashy javascript stuff but forgot to put in any search engine
> keywords or descriptions via the "Meta" tag feature that's meant for
> that (oops).
> Ho hum.

All seems to depend on the keywoards. "VSTi support" entered to Google
brought it up as the 4th hit. "Softsynth support" however didn't bring it up
at all.

> And I did a quick site search for "exs-users" and got no matches, so
> they don't seem to give any indication that THIS group exists ...

Hm, yeah... maybe they should have a section for mailing lists. But maybe
that would just defeat the purpose of running a forum based site.

> Maybe there's still a niche here that's worth filling, perhaps I'll
> keep the "SoftSynth Central" Yahoo group in place for a month or so,
> and see what happens.

I'll join in any case and see what happens too :-)

Apart from that, a few words about K-v-R: The community there in general is
nice, but you certainly have to take everything you're reading there with a
grain of salt. The reviews for instance very often are shamelessly praising
some things (at least if you ask me) so you better learn to read between the
lines (well, as with any reviews...).
Still, I think the site is the most up to date one when it comes to
softsynth news.

Regards,
Sascha

Kontact Daw Mac instruments

2003-01-04 by Murray McDowall

I found some pretty decent guitar samples at:

http://kontakt.daw-mac.com/

They are in the Sample Library -- Guitars section:

Guild F47 Acoustic Guitar 

and 

Guild F47 harmonics

These were provided by David Das and come with a set of Kontact presets
which my PC version of Kontact was unable to open. 

(I am not sure what the problem with his instruments (both guitars and also
his drydrums kit). Perhaps the path length for the sample location encoded
in these is too large or something. Adding .nki usually does the trick but
not for these. If anyone can get these going I would like to try them with
Kontact.)

Anyway -- I built some exs instruments  with the included audio samples
which some might find useful. They are on the files area at yahoo:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/files/

Download the sit archives from kontact.daw-mac.com and the exs files from
yahoo and follow the directions in the readme if you are new to this stuff.

Regards,
Murray

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by Michael Gerdau

>Geez man, you took me completely wrong.

In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting.

Best,
Michael
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Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>

That's a good idea - why not start a special group just for 
discussion of OSX "Audio Units" issues? That way, OSX people would 
have a single place to look when they want to know what new AU 
instruments are avalable, without having to wade through a pile of 
VST stuff.

It only takes a few minutes to set one of these things up once you've 
thought of a catchy name (or just call it "AudioUnits" 
or "OSXAudioUnits" or something). Include lots of appropriate 
keywords in the group description so that people can find it on the 
indexes, put in a logo, and then tell people its there.

(OK, I committed a major crime by not putting a logo on SSC group, 
but that's cos I set it up a few hours after first having the idea, 
and I was feeling uninspired). 

Want me to set up an AU group for you? 


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, <HELP@M...> wrote:
> My only suggestion is to define the group as Audio Units or 
> VST and pick an operating system. I for one will upgrade to 
> OSX Logic as soon as possible, so that group is only useful 
> to me as a Mac Audio Units group. I don't think
> I'd have the patience to sift through a deluge of VST/PC topics 
that I can't
> do anything with. Just my thoughts anyway. 

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softsynthcentral/

RE: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments

2003-01-04 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer

Great!!

Can they be used for PC also??

:-))

// Kim
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-----Original Message-----
From: Murray McDowall [mailto:murraymc@...]
Sent: 4. januar 2003 10:38
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments


I found some pretty decent guitar samples at:

http://kontakt.daw-mac.com/

They are in the Sample Library -- Guitars section:

Guild F47 Acoustic Guitar 

and 

Guild F47 harmonics

These were provided by David Das and come with a set of Kontact presets
which my PC version of Kontact was unable to open. 

(I am not sure what the problem with his instruments (both guitars and also
his drydrums kit). Perhaps the path length for the sample location encoded
in these is too large or something. Adding .nki usually does the trick but
not for these. If anyone can get these going I would like to try them with
Kontact.)

Anyway -- I built some exs instruments  with the included audio samples
which some might find useful. They are on the files area at yahoo:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/files/

Download the sit archives from kontact.daw-mac.com and the exs files from
yahoo and follow the directions in the readme if you are new to this stuff.

Regards,
Murray




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RE: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments

2003-01-04 by Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer

(I dont have Kontakt so I'm glad you've done the EXS-version ;-)

Great! I'm gonna download and play then :-))

Thanks!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Murray McDowall [mailto:murraymc@...]
Sent: 4. januar 2003 17:13
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments


At 04:50 PM 1/4/03 +0100, you wrote:
>
> Great!!
>
> Can they be used for PC also??


The exs instruments in the zip archive I uploaded to Yahoo Groups were made
on
a PC and will work on either platform. The Kontact presets/instruments in
the
.sit archives at kontact.daw-mac.com I could not load on my PC version of
Kontact -- "unknown error".

Regards,
Murray





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RE: [exs] Kontact Daw Mac instruments

2003-01-04 by Murray McDowall

At 04:50 PM 1/4/03 +0100, you wrote: 
>
> Great!!
>
> Can they be used for PC also??


The exs instruments in the zip archive I uploaded to Yahoo Groups were made on
a PC and will work on either platform. The Kontact presets/instruments in the
.sit archives at kontact.daw-mac.com I could not load on my PC version of
Kontact -- "unknown error".

Regards,
Murray

Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by teddybut

<HELP@...> wrote:
> Geez man, you took me completely wrong. Perhaps it is me whose being
> short-sighted, but I wasn't being condescending.
<snipped>
> If I have offended anyone one this list, I apologize. I talk a lot (not to
> hear myself). I just really like this forum and feel at ease sharing my
> thoughts. For those of you who think of me as arrogant, that's not my
> personality and I hope you'll try to see my remarks in a different light. I
> am always open to rebuttal and don't consider my word to be the last word at
> any point. Wow, patronizing... that's not where my head is at, man!

You are one of my favorite people on this list. Don't worry you weren't
being patronizing. Michael Gerdau, however, seems to me as an observer, to
be kind of an overly politically correct guy in his response to you... and
yet he's got this awfully arrogant/old joke moniker, dissing Windows, and it
changes every time he writes, so he must be really wanting to put forth the
impression that he is anti windows. He spends time on it.... the evidence is
below:

>>> My view. Best,
>>> Michael
>>> I used to be computer illiterate. Then I dumped Windows!

Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before
accusing you!

teddybut

Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by teddybut

> Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before
> accusing you!
> 
> teddybut 
> 
>>> Geez man, you took me completely wrong.
>> 
>> In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Michael

I see the accuser has looked at himself, after his unreasonable
accusation... congratulations.

teddybut

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

I know you can easily find all AU instruments (or VST and more) at
vst-kvr.com by several methods (free, commercial and under development), but
the benefit of discussion is obvious when you look at this EXS24 list. We
get links to new sound sources all the time, which is great. So I'm
thinking... I'm going to eventually have a lot of audio unit instruments and
plugins. It would be really cool of there was one place for ongoing
discussion for that specific host technology, where notification of new
patches for various plugins that I will have can be downloaded like we
download EXS24 kits. That's not to say PC/VST users shouldn't also do the
same. To be clear, I don't want to segregate all of us. After all, we'll
still be hanging on this list because of the EXS.
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> That's a good idea - why not start a special group just for
> discussion of OSX "Audio Units" issues? That way, OSX people would
> have a single place to look when they want to know what new AU
> instruments are avalable, without having to wade through a pile of
> VST stuff.

Re: [exs] SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

No, I already run a couple groups, so it would be easy for me. I'd like to
wait until there's more out there to discuss. For now, the easiest thing is
to check out osxaudio.com or kvr-vst.com. Perhaps in a few months I'll
consider it, specifically when I can upgrade to OSX. That will be when my
UAD-1, reFX, and others support AU. Can't wait!

> Want me to set up an AU group for you?

Re: [exs] Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-04 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Yes... and they all lived happily ever after! ;)
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> 
>> Don't worry, Jer, you are cool... the accuser should look to himself before
>> accusing you!
>> 
>> teddybut 
>> 
>>>> Geez man, you took me completely wrong.
>>> 
>>> In that case I sincerely apologize for kind of overreacting.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Michael
> 
> I see the accuser has looked at himself, after his unreasonable
> accusation... congratulations.
> 
> teddybut
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-05 by Kevin McNair

I don't know if this was already mentioned, but
http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a OSX/AU plugin
focus. I brought up the need for OSX/AU-specific website in the Logic users'
group, and this is where I was directed. It has other topics beside plugz,
but plugz are covered pretty well. Good site, though K-v-R is still my
favorite ;-)
Kevin

Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-06 by Eric Baird <eric_baird@compuserve.com>

Thanks, that does look pretty comprehensive.
Adding it to the growing SSC links section ...


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin McNair <kevinmcnair@a...> 
wrote:
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> I don't know if this was already mentioned, but
> http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a 
> OSX/AU plugin focus.

Re: [exs] Re: SoftSynth Central

2003-01-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Yup, that's the one I mentioned I use in the meantime. -Jer
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> Thanks, that does look pretty comprehensive.
> Adding it to the growing SSC links section ...
> 
> 
> --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin McNair <kevinmcnair@a...>
> wrote:
>> I don't know if this was already mentioned, but
>> http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php might fill the bill for a
>> OSX/AU plugin focus.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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