Re: Lowering the tone . . .
2003-01-21 by Ruben Feffer
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> wrote: > > From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> > > mjmartin64@... wrote: > >> >> Main question: can I speed a drum loop up slightly, even if I'm not >> worried about a slight pitch change? Is there a mechanism short of >> editing the loop for doing that? I've seen friends with hardware >> samplers do it. > > The easiest, although least flexible way, would be to just use some > pitch bend. Go in to the event list where you can easily fine tune the > pitch bend amount in order to get more subtler tempo/pitch variations > than you will with a joy stick or PB wheel. > > Once you find a new speed/transpose value you like, bounce it to disc > as a new file, trim it, then use the adjust object length to loacators > command inside Logic to determine the new tempo. If you wanted to, you > could then even reload the new loop back into the EXS for more > manipulation. Hi Mjmartin and Eli and all My usual method, if I don't mind some altering of the pitch (which sometimes I might even _desire_) is: 1. either use above mentioned tip of recording pb info and editing via event list or 2. adjust tuning (coarse and fine) in EXS itself > >> And, as far as altering tempos of drum loops, is the real solution >> just to buy Recycle (which I've never used)? > > This sort of thing is another approach. It offers more flexibility and > since it is quicker to get results, one is inclined to try/experiment > in more ways. An alternative to Recycle is pHATmatik Pro. This > operates as a plugin inside of Logic. In many ways it is a lot more > easy to use and more seamlessly integrated with Logic. Although that's > a whole other topic. If you search the archives for this list you'll > find plenty of insightful discussion as to the relative merits, > features, and comparisons between Recycle, pHATmatik Pro, and Groove > Conrol. > > Now, when I really need to control my loops, I use one of two methods (besides Recycle which mainly sits unused cause I find it too cumbersome). 3. PhatMatik Pro inside of Logic, which has been told about already, and I enforce it. or (and this is almost taboo, no one ever seems to talk about it) 4. Ableton's Live (either slaved thru rewire or as a separate app), which can play with any audio's timing and pitch, no matter how long (a problem with PMP which seems more oriented to smaller loops). And new Live version 2 gives _amazing_ algorhythms to stretch and twist audio. give it a try http://www.ableton.de Ruben [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]