EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

> Sean (osr@...) wrote:
> 
>> 
>> . I'm an experienced user with multiple drives and partitions dedicated
>> to the proper functions.  The problem I so poorly explained is that Logic
>> automatically creates the Giga convert folder inside the Logic folder,
>> which is not on my dedicated sample drive. (I know I could move Logic, but
>> for organizational purposes I do prefer to keep my software installations
>> on the system drive)  I tried creating an alias to my sample drive but that
>> didn't work. What I'm hoping is that Logic/EXS24 has an option for
>> specifying the location of the converted Giga files, and that I've just
>> missed it.

here's what I do:

copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga,
Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from
inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your sample
drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything where
it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the
sample drive.

teddybut

At 08:02 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga,
>Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from
>inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your sample
>drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything where
>it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the
>sample drive.
>
>teddybut


Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate, 
but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying 
the location of the files as they're converted.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the project manager simplify the
operation of locating samples? You scan only the folder that contains your
samples. I think you can simply scan for changes as well. It cuts down
considerably on the time it would take to search all drives. But perhaps you
know this already? -Jer

> Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate,
> but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying
> the location of the files as they're converted.




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At 11:06 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the project manager simplify the
>operation of locating samples? You scan only the folder that contains your
>samples. I think you can simply scan for changes as well. It cuts down
>considerably on the time it would take to search all drives. But perhaps you
>know this already?


My copy of version 6 is still sitting unopened next to my computer, so I'm 
not yet familiar with all the Project Manager can do. I don't think it will 
solve the initial problem of imported file locations, but as Tim pointed 
out to me, I can get around that by using Translator or CDXtract. (but I 
still think EXS24 should allow the user to specify the file locations 
during the import process) Thanks,

Sean

The Project Manager is the best way to do it -- just open that window, and 
from the menu bar do  FUNCTIONS>SCAN.  It takes a bit, but it locates EVERY 
SINGLE audio + logic-related file on your hard drives.  I would do this 
before bringing in another piece of software... it's easy!

> At 08:02 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>> copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga,
>> Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from
>> inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your sample
>> drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything where
>> it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the
>> sample drive.
>> 
>> teddybut
> 
> 
> Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate,
> but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying
> the location of the files as they're converted.

you're missing the point. you do this once then all the future things you
convert go to your sample drive.

teddybut

At 01:36 PM 04/28/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>  > At 08:02 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >> copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga,
> >> Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from
> >> inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your 
> sample
> >> drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything 
> where
> >> it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the
> >> sample drive.
> >>
> >> teddybut
> >
> >
> > Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate,
> > but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying
> > the location of the files as they're converted.
>
>you're missing the point. you do this once then all the future things you
>convert go to your sample drive.
>
>teddybut


Hmm, sorry to beat this to death, but I don't think so when it comes to 
Giga importing. Everything sample related is already on my sample drive, 
with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works 
perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original 
"DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder 
on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in 
the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files 
again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually 
moved to the sample drive.  Am I still missing something?

Sean

In case it slipped by, just want to make sure people understand you can scan
a single folder, rather than all discs, cutting the scan time DRAMATICALLY.
AND you can scan incrementally, after additional imports. It's doesn't get
faster than this.

> The Project Manager is the best way to do it -- just open that window, and
> from the menu bar do  FUNCTIONS>SCAN.  It takes a bit, but it locates EVERY
> SINGLE audio + logic-related file on your hard drives.  I would do this
> before bringing in another piece of software... it's easy!




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On a fine day, 28-04-2003, Sean McCoy wrote:

>Everything sample related is already on my sample drive,
>with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works
>perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original
>"DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder
>on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in
>the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files
>again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually
>moved to the sample drive.  Am I still missing something?

I don't get this...  If you've created an alias called "xyz", then 
how on earth can Logic create a folder that's called "xyz" as well in 
the same directory???  So you mean to say that at the end of the 
process you have _2_ objects with identical names in the same 
directory???

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

At 10:17 PM 04/28/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>On a fine day, 28-04-2003, Sean McCoy wrote:
>
> >Everything sample related is already on my sample drive,
> >with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works
> >perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original
> >"DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder
> >on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in
> >the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files
> >again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually
> >moved to the sample drive.  Am I still missing something?
>
>I don't get this...  If you've created an alias called "xyz", then
>how on earth can Logic create a folder that's called "xyz" as well in
>the same directory???  So you mean to say that at the end of the
>process you have _2_ objects with identical names in the same
>directory???


Yes, exactly. I've created an alias in identical fashion to the one that 
directs my Sampler Instruments to the proper drive, but EXS24 creates a 
new, identical original DLS-Giga Samples directory during each Giga conversion.

Are the original Giga files (the *.gig versions) still in the 
original Sampler Instruments directory? I'd imagine if you leave them 
there but move the EXS versions then EXS will convert the originals 
all over again. Just a thought...

Martin

On a fine day, 30-04-2003, Sean McCoy wrote:

>  >I don't get this...  If you've created an alias called "xyz", then
>  >how on earth can Logic create a folder that's called "xyz" as well in
>>the same directory???  So you mean to say that at the end of the
>>process you have _2_ objects with identical names in the same
>  >directory???
>
>Yes, exactly. I've created an alias in identical fashion to the one that
>directs my Sampler Instruments to the proper drive, but EXS24 creates a
>new, identical original DLS-Giga Samples directory during each Giga 
>conversion.

That's completely weird...  I can't remember ever having seen 2 
identically named objects in the same directory.  Heck, I would even 
have sworn that it's impossible.  Mighty annoying...  And it also 
means that some strange routines are used -- normal I/O routines 
would transparently use the alias without even noticing that it's an 
alias...

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/