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EXS-24 vs. Mach V

EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-02 by Janne Anderson

Dear list,

We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?

Therefore I guess we are forced to look at Mach V as a
sampler to use from within Protools..?

Just checking, TIA and regards

Janne A.

Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-02 by teddybut

> We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
> safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?
> 
> Therefore I guess we are forced to look at Mach V as a
> sampler to use from within Protools..?
> 
> Just checking, TIA and regards
> 
> Janne A.

whatever do you mean? they are supposed to ship EPIC TDM soon. It will work
in pro tools and pretty soon.

teddybut

Re: [EXS] Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-02 by Janne Anderson

Really?

Surely EXS 24 is not in that bundle?
Could I have missed that...

http://www.emagic.de/products/st/epictdm/index.php?lang=EN

That would be good though...I wish you are corect...;-)

regards
Janne A.

teddybut@... writes:
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>> We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
>> safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?
>> 
>> Therefore I guess we are forced to look at Mach V as a
>> sampler to use from within Protools..?
>> 
>> Just checking, TIA and regards
>> 
>> Janne A.
>
>whatever do you mean? they are supposed to ship EPIC TDM soon. It will
>work
>in pro tools and pretty soon.
>
>teddybut

EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-03 by Phil Buckle

on 2/5/03 10:42 PM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com at exs-users@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> Dear list,
> 
> We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
> safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?
> 
> Therefore I guess we are forced to look at Mach V as a
> sampler to use from within Protools..?
> 
> Just checking, TIA and regards
> 
> Janne A.
Hi Janne,  I know of one orchestral editor who is using the DTDM in Logic
while slaved to PTools routine.  This allows the EXS to come up in an aux in
the PTools mixer. It means that you have to use ESB though. It's a great and
seemless system and gives you the EXS plus midi capabilities of Logic and
the audio capabilities and superior automation of PTools.
Phil Buckle.

Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-03 by Janne Anderson

Logic as a EXS 24 host only?
You're right...hmmm..
Might actually be worth another go under OSX...
if we can play midi in PT too, to trigger EXS playback..
Trying to run the two as a combo was allways way too slow IMHO..

thanx for heads-up

Janne A.

pbuckle@... writes:
>Hi Janne,  I know of one orchestral editor who is using the DTDM in Logic
>while slaved to PTools routine.  This allows the EXS to come up in an aux
>in
>the PTools mixer. It means that you have to use ESB though. It's a great
>and
>seemless system and gives you the EXS plus midi capabilities of Logic and
>the audio capabilities and superior automation of PTools.
>Phil Buckle.


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Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-04 by teddybut

> Really?
> 
> Surely EXS 24 is not in that bundle?
> Could I have missed that...
> 
> http://www.emagic.de/products/st/epictdm/index.php?lang=EN
> 
> That would be good though...I wish you are corect...;-)
> 
> regards
> Janne A.

sorry, I had my info wrong. I was thinking of the HostTDM enabler. But
according to emagic site EXS isn't supported. That's kind of the only reason
I'd get it so I guess I am not getting it till it supports EXS... which it
probably will in 3 years or so...

in the meantime, enjoy Mach 5...

teddybut

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2003-05-04 by Patrick Hall

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2003-05-05 by Juanje Luzardo

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Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-05 by Joshua S. Emmons

> We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
> safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?

It doesn't seem likely.  I was just at a Logic6 demo and the ESB TDM 
package was brought up.  Someone asked why the EXS wasn't included in 
the list of AudioInstruments that could be used through ESB TDM.  The 
eMagic rep said that it wasn't a political or time-constraints issue, 
but that the EXS is so tightly integrated with Logic's audio engine that 
it would take a rewrite to get it to work "outside" of Logic.

Cheers,
-Josh Emmons

Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-05 by Colin Shapiro

Maybe this is of interest to those following this thread:
In Logic 6.1 (just released):
"The update allows the use of Digidesign TDM systems with Logic 
Platinum 6 under Mac OS X. It also provides the full functionality of 
Emagic's optional ESB TDM and PTHD Extensions in Mac OS X. This now 
provides TDM users with the opportunity to use the Emagic software 
instruments - ES1, ES2, EVOC20, EVP88, EVD6, EVB3 and EXS24 - in 
combination with the reliable, powerful TDM DSP hardware together 
with Logic Platinum 6 on the advanced Mac OS X platform."

Hope this helps
Colin

VSL on TDM DSP was Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-06 by Cyril Blanc

On 6/05/03 0:11, "Colin Shapiro" <musos@...> wrote:

> Maybe this is of interest to those following this thread:
> In Logic 6.1 (just released):
> "The update allows the use of Digidesign TDM systems with Logic
> Platinum 6 under Mac OS X. It also provides the full functionality of
> Emagic's optional ESB TDM and PTHD Extensions in Mac OS X. This now
> provides TDM users with the opportunity to use the Emagic software
> instruments - ES1, ES2, EVOC20, EVP88, EVD6, EVB3 and EXS24 - in
> combination with the reliable, powerful TDM DSP hardware together
> with Logic Platinum 6 on the advanced Mac OS X platform."
> 
> Hope this helps
> Colin
> 
Hello Colin,

Just an idea ;

If you can play EXS24 on a TDM DSP hardware who is using the memory for the
sample ?

The MAC or the sample is loaded in the TDM card ?

Why this question ? VSL !

Same question with using the TC card ?

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
France

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Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-06 by Nick Batzdorf

>  > We use Protools a lot of the time and I would assume that it is
>>  safe to say by now that EXS24 will never appear as a HTDM/RTAS plugin?
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From: "Joshua S. Emmons" <skia@...>

>It doesn't seem likely.  I was just at a Logic6 demo and the ESB TDM
>package was brought up.  Someone asked why the EXS wasn't included in
>the list of AudioInstruments that could be used through ESB TDM.  The
>eMagic rep said that it wasn't a political or time-constraints issue,
>but that the EXS is so tightly integrated with Logic's audio engine that
>it would take a rewrite to get it to work "outside" of Logic.

Which would mean one of two things: he or she was dancing, or the EXS 
VST "playback only" (!) version is/was quite different. ESB works 
very well, though.

***

I don't have version 6 yet, but what intrigues me is the possibility 
of importing frozen tracks out of the temporary holding folder (since 
I mix in Pro Tools). Has anyone tried that?
-- 

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Re: VSL on TDM DSP was Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-06 by Colin Shapiro

>If you can play EXS24 on a TDM DSP hardware who is using the memory for the
>sample ?
>
>The MAC or the sample is loaded in the TDM card ?
>
>Why this question ? VSL !
>
>Same question with using the TC card ?
>
>Best regards
>
>Cyril Blanc
>France


Sorry, I know nothing of TDM etc. I just posted the info as I thought 
it might be helpful.
Anyone else?

Re: VSL on TDM DSP was Re: [EXS] EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-06 by Paul Najar

>> If you can play EXS24 on a TDM DSP hardware who is using the memory for the
>> sample ?
>> 
>> The MAC or the sample is loaded in the TDM card ?
>> 
>> Why this question ? VSL !
>> 
>> Same question with using the TC card ?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Cyril Blanc
>> France

You can't play an EXS on a TDM DSP chip - period. It may appear that you
can, because Logic allows you to insert an EXS on a TDM Aux object - but
this is just a convenience. It is still running from the native audio engine
(and ram). 

There is a benefit to Emagic doing it this way.  ESB, the Emagic technology
that allows you to stream the mac native audio engine into TDM outputs, only
allows for 8 channels. By allowing the EXS to be inserted in a TDM aux
object you don't take up any of those ESB channels for EXS, AND you can get
MANY EXS outputs to TDM as well.

 
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Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-07 by teddybut

> I don't have version 6 yet, but what intrigues me is the possibility
> of importing frozen tracks out of the temporary holding folder (since
> I mix in Pro Tools). Has anyone tried that?
> -- 
> 
> Nick Batzdorf

it will save you about 3 weeks per year in bouncing if not more. it
completely rocks...

teddybut

Re: [EXS] Re: EXS-24 vs. Mach V

2003-05-08 by Gilles Ruppert

On 7/5/03 1:08, "teddybut" <teddybut@...> wrote:

>> > I don't have version 6 yet, but what intrigues me is the possibility
>> > of importing frozen tracks out of the temporary holding folder (since
>> > I mix in Pro Tools). Has anyone tried that?
>> > -- 
>> > 
>> > Nick Batzdorf
> 
> it will save you about 3 weeks per year in bouncing if not more. it
> completely rocks...
> 
> teddybut
> 
I agree!!! Just tried it tonight & it worked perfectly fine!!! only one
thing: the files have weird names, so you have to rename them in PT if you
want to make sense out of them...

Cheers,

gilles



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