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Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller

2010-06-02 by Steve krall

Yes...GP...I have tried that parameter. I have to tell ya'll...I've been using preamps for 25 years. Yes...the 2101 is a bit different with it's multiple mixer options, but from The Chain Reaction I bought new in 1986-7, to the GSP-21 Pro, to the RP-2000  to Rocktron Voodu Valve to Vox Tonelab SE, and several others....I've ALWAYS found a "master volume". And I DEPEND on it with my life! 

Now...after exploring on my own a bit, I have:
1) Selected a program (Distortion + delay)
2) Assigned the CC to Post EQ Master Volume distortion "on". 
3) Calibrated the Pedal
4) Set min/max

And under this program...I still have volume in the minimal setting. With the above operations, I have reduced it...but it's still there...still audible as if on "1/2" or "1" on a typical guitar amp master volume. I would conclude that there is some sort of leakage or fault in the pedal or midi. . But under a different program...no fx....CC works perfectly...dead quiet to full volume. 

Now I can only conclude that with effects, the signal is somehow being routed away from this "Master Volume" parameter. As you can see...it's very frustrating. I appreciate the "how to link a parameter to cc" message...but I am FAR beyond that. The volume link to CC is working.....and the best I can see at this point is it is working without effects...and not working so well with effects. 

I should add...that even with the 2101 front control panel...the master volume does not make the volume go to dead quiet. Faulty 2101? 

I will continue to beat this issue over the head.....but I need some REAL help here! There has to be something I am missing. 

Signed,
Desperately seeking zero volume with FX. 




--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Graham Pearson <me@...> wrote:

From: Graham Pearson <me@...>
Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:11 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      


Have you tried using the Volume at the end of the 
analog section?  I believe it's right after the analog EQ.  The 
advantage of using this Volume control is that it allows any digital effects 
such as reverb or echo to trail away even though you've reduced the volume of 
the signal being sent from the analog section to the digital 
section.
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Steve 
  krall 
  To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:05 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [gsp-2101] master volume 
  with CC controller
  
  
  
  
  
    
    
      
        Hey thanks! I have the manual.....my problem is I can't find 
        "MASTER VOLUME" to assign the pedal to. Some patches have a TON of 
        left/right mixes...but there's no clear cut "mater Volume parameter. 
        
         
        I did find one patch that has a complete volume control...but it's 
        post effects. I'll try to find what parameter they assigned...that will 
        work for non-FX patches. 
         
        Steve

--- On Mon, 5/31/10, Graham Pearson 
        <me@grahampearson. com> wrote:

        
From: 
          Graham Pearson <me@grahampearson. com>
Subject: Re: 
          [gsp-2101] master volume with CC controller
To: 
          gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 7:50 
          PM


            
          
          
          Regarding using your expression pedal 
          to control Master Volume, here's a copy of a Help page from 
          MIDIWizard's Help Menu:
           
          Assigning Control of a New Parameter to 
          an Expression Pedal
           
          From your program’s title screen, use 
          the [Previous] or [Next] arrow buttons and the function keys [1], [2], 
          or [3] to select the parameter you wish to link to the expression 
          pedal.  Next, press the [Link] button.  At this point, your 
          2101’s LED displays the message “Select a Foot Switch”.  Move 
          your expression pedal to link it to the selected parameter.  Your 
          2101’s LED confirms the new link.
           
          Press function key [2] and use the DATA 
          wheel to specify the parameter value corresponding to the full back 
          toe-up pedal position.  Press function key [3] and use the DATA 
          wheel to specify the parameter value corresponding to the full forward 
          toe-down pedal position.
           
          The default values are the parameter’s 
          minimum and maximum values respectively.  If you want to invert 
          the effect of your expression pedal, set the “Min Value” greater than 
          the “Max Value”.
           
          It’s usually difficult to know what 
          minimum and maximum values you should select at this point.  
          After playing with the expression pedal for a while, you’ll want to 
          change these settings.  The help topic entitled “Changing Minimum 
          and Maximum Foot Switch or Expression Pedal Settings” describes how to 
          do this.
           
          Press the [Link] button to exit the 
          link menu.  Remember to press the [Store] button if you wish to 
          save your updated program.
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
          
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Steve krall 
            To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup 
            s.com 
            Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 5:01 
            PM
            Subject: [gsp-2101] master 
            volume with CC controller
            
  
            
            
            
              
              
                Hello everyone. I'm wondering how to link each 
                  patch master volume to the continuous controller. I've had 
                  MANY outboard preamps...and whenever they have a CC 
                  pedal...I've always found and used a patch master volume. In 
                  other word..I always have a volume pedal to control my overall 
                  volume....zero to max. 

I can;t seem to find the 2101 
                  master volume control. I haven't mastered it yet...and in fact 
                  am confused by the large assortment of mixing options. Some 
                  patches seem to have a volume link...but it's not totally zero 
                  volume. Almost like a submix or uncalibrated pedal...even 
                  though I have calibrated and set it to 0 min 15 max. There 
                  SHOULD be a master volume control for all patches that take it 
                  from dead nothing to full on,, no matter how many submixed 
                  stereo mixes you can dream up. 


Where are they? How 
                  do I link the CC to the master volumes?
Thanks guys...I'm 
                  befuddled. First preamp EVER that I can't figure this out.

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