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freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by patricknoblejarvis

Just curious if anybody has had a similar experience/info as to what
caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...

I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I went
ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP freeze
up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
"waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking the
internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs that
I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick

Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back to
the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery a
few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown analog
param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not hold
in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??

Re: freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by extreme99zl

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "patricknoblejarvis"
<patricknoblejarvis@...> wrote:
>
> Just curious if anybody has had a similar experience/info as to what
> caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...
> 
> I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
> than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
> only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I went
> ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
> internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
> worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP freeze
> up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
> "waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
> button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
> after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
> locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
> frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking the
> internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
> the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs that
> I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
> the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
> transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
> comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick
> 
> Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back to
> the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery a
> few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
> booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown analog
> param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
> replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not hold
> in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??
>
No,Sorry I haven't encountered anything this extensive yet.I have had
my gsp freeze on me when I tried to use off.syx and copied a program
from net to that number space,But a restore fixed mine.Of course I
keep several copies of a bulk dump on my pc for such issues.What
software version you have on you gsp?

RE: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by MM

Could be corrupted data but I m surprised a reset wouldn t fix that. Had a patch once where if I scrolled past it it would corrupt the machine, so bad data

Re: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by Glenjamin

A new battery would not hurt. Then go to plan B. Process of elimination. Here is the reset proceedure.

Steps in doing a Factory Reset. (Erases all YOUR programs) HOLD ACCESS 1 BUTTON, POWER ON. AFTER * APPEARS IN THE UPPER LEFT OF THE LCD PRESS PROGRAM UP.

----- Original Message ----
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From: MM
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:32:47 AM
Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem

Could be corrupted data but I’m surprised a reset wouldn’t fix that. Had a patch once where if I scrolled past it it would corrupt the machine, so bad data will cause the symptoms you describe. I believe there is a HARD reset but I don’t have the exact procedure for that handy. Try a fresh battery (and leave it out for a few minutes).

-----Original Message-----
From: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:gsp- 2101@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of patricknoblejarvis
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:14 PM
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem

Just curious if anybody has had a similar experience/info as to what
caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...

I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I went
ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP freeze
up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
"waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking the
internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs that
I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick

Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back to
the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery a
few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown analog
param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not hold
in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??



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Re: freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by belphedeus

Hi patrick,
Its pretty unbelievable that a reset didnt do the trick but its 
suspected that a bad data could have done that crash/freeze.Best is 
to reset to factory setting and get a new Bulk Dump from elsewhere.
And if that didnt work try getting the Tech Support of Digitech.
They are a helpful bunch but you'll have to be specific with the 
problem you're facing.Good luck dude.

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Glenjamin <rhythmposse@...> wrote:
>
> A new battery would not hurt. Then go to plan B. Process of 
elimination.  Here is the reset proceedure.
> 
>  Steps in doing a Factory Reset. 
>   (Erases all YOUR programs) HOLD ACCESS 1 BUTTON, POWER ON. AFTER 
* APPEARS IN 
>   THE UPPER LEFT OF THE LCD PRESS PROGRAM UP.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: MM <strategy400@...>
> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:32:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem
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> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:14
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> Just curious if anybody has had a similar
> experience/info as to what
> 
> caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...
> 
> 
> 
> I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
> 
> than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
> 
> only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I 
went
> 
> ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
> 
> internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
> 
> worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP 
freeze
> 
> up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
> 
> "waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
> 
> button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
> 
> after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
> 
> locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
> 
> frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking 
the
> 
> internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
> 
> the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs 
that
> 
> I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
> 
> the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
> 
> transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
> 
> comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back 
to
> 
> the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery 
a
> 
> few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
> 
> booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown
> analog
> 
> param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
> 
> replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not 
hold
> 
> in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??
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Re: [gsp-2101] Re: freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by Patrick Jarvis

It's an Artist Pro loaded with 3.00.00a and PPC210.


extreme99zl wrote:
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--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "patricknoblejarvis"
@...> wrote:
>
> Just curious if anybody has had a similar experience/info as to what
> caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...
>
> I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
> than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
> only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I went
> ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
> internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
> worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP freeze
> up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
> "waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
> button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
> after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
> locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
> frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking the
> internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
> the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs that
> I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
> the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
> transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
> comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick
>
> Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back to
> the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery a
> few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
> booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown analog
> param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
> replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not hold
> in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??
>
No,Sorry I haven't encountered anything this extensive yet.I have had
my gsp freeze on me when I tried to use off.syx and copied a program
from net to that number space,But a restore fixed mine.Of course I
keep several copies of a bulk dump on my pc for such issues.What
software version you have on you gsp?


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RE: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem

2007-04-17 by Patrick Jarvis

Thanks for your advise.

I tried another reset from a help topic in MidiWIzard that brought factory programs back....1) turn off unit 2) hold down 1 button while powering on 3) wait till * in left corner appears then release 1 button 4) press program up key to start reset 5) follow up with sytem restore using midiwizard

I didn't do the system restore yet cause I'm gonna get a fresh battery first. This restore brought only factory programs back but my user programs that were giving me trouble are still the same.

MM wrote:
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Could be corrupted data but I\ufffdm surprised a reset wouldn\ufffdt fix that. Had a patch once where if I scrolled past it it would corrupt the machine, so bad data will cause the symptoms you describe. I believe there is a HARD reset but I don\ufffdt have the exact procedure for that handy. Try a fresh battery (and leave it out for a few minutes).
-----Original Message-----
From: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patricknoblejarvis
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:14 PM
To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gsp-2101] freeze up/crash problem
Just curious if anybody has had a similar experience/info as to what
caused my GSP2101 to freeze up and crash...

I bought a used GSP2101 and found some of the programs were quiter
than others, I thought a system reset would help but it didn't so i
only assumed those programs were suppose to sound like that? So I went
ahead and transfered some sysex programs I downloaded from the
internet and used widiwizard to transfer them to my GSP2101. Some
worked but I came across other programs that would make my GSP freeze
up/crash. The display would either read "unknown algorithm" or
"waiting for user algorithm" or "midi message too long press any
button" or worse, would read in alien text or the leds disappear! So
after try'n to reboot, restore unsuccessfully too many times and
locking up each time I dialed the program number I copied to, I got
frustrated and made one last attempt by popping the lid and taking the
internal battery out hoping that would clear the ram and hard-reset
the whole system. Well, to my surprise it worked and the programs that
I couldn't hear in the beginning came to life! I'm still not sure if
the problem was a bad sysex file or my GSP2101, I haven't tried
transferring new programs from midiwizard yet. Any
comments/suggestion s would be appreciated -Patrick

Update...since restoring last night, now my 2101 has reverted back to
the way it was before. After trying to restore /replace the battery a
few times it won't function anymore and the display reads after
booting up "unused cmd for type 1 param" and after..."unknown analog
param". I'm thinking maybe The internal battery is dying and needs
replacing which may be the cause for the restore attempts to not hold
in ram? Does anybody now whats going on??

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