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FX Loop

FX Loop

2007-10-31 by d7x13

The problem I'm having is that I want the FX loop On/Summed/Bypass 
option to control the SEND, not RETURN (as it behaves in all versions 
of the 2101). Or, if that's not possible, I'd want so that it turns 
on/off both, the return and the send.

Example: I have a high-feedback (90%) echo in the FX Loop. And I'm 
going between two patches; we'll call them A and B. 

Patch A = Dstrd sound; FX Loop Off
Patch B = Clean sound; FX Loop ON  (echo)

Let's say I'm going to play a chorus using Patch A and switch to 
Patch B for the next verse. Since the 2101 is set up in a way where 
the FX SEND is ALWAYS on..... once I hit that switch, my distortion 
will start echo'ing (getting delayed) - and therefore mess up the 
sound of the verse.


Is there any kind of firmware upgrade (I already have v3.0.0.a) that 
can alter what the On/Summed/Bypass option controls? If not, is it 
possible to have it electronically/mechanically edited and if so, do 
you happen to know any engineers who can pull this off?

Re: [gsp-2101] FX Loop

2007-10-31 by Graham Pearson

I understand your problem. The only solution I can recommend is to include a MIDI-controlled audio signal router/switcher in your setup. An expensive example of one of these devices is the Voodoo Labs / DMC GCX. These are one of the few that are still being manufactured and there are several currently being auctioned on eBay. I use an older, discontinued, but just as effective Ibanez EPP-400 for duties such as this. You can occasionally see these on eBay also.
To solve your problem, you would insert your MIDI-controlled switcher in the GSP-2101's effect loop and, depending on the patch you are currently using, the switcher would either include or bypass your echo unit. Of course, these switchers are capable of a lot more than this simple application, but it'll get the job done without having to alter the bowels of your GSP-2101.
Hope this helps. Please let us know how you solve this problem.
Graham
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----- Original Message -----
From: d7x13
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] FX Loop

The problem I'm having is that I want the FX loop On/Summed/Bypass
option to control the SEND, not RETURN (as it behaves in all versions
of the 2101). Or, if that's not possible, I'd want so that it turns
on/off both, the return and the send.

Example: I have a high-feedback (90%) echo in the FX Loop. And I'm
going between two patches; we'll call them A and B.

Patch A = Dstrd sound; FX Loop Off
Patch B = Clean sound; FX Loop ON (echo)

Let's say I'm going to play a chorus using Patch A and switch to
Patch B for the next verse. Since the 2101 is set up in a way where
the FX SEND is ALWAYS on..... once I hit that switch, my distortion
will start echo'ing (getting delayed) - and therefore mess up the
sound of the verse.

Is there any kind of firmware upgrade (I already have v3.0.0.a) that
can alter what the On/Summed/Bypass option controls? If not, is it
possible to have it electronically/mechanically edited and if so, do
you happen to know any engineers who can pull this off?

Re: [gsp-2101] FX Loop

2007-10-31 by goddardfil@gmail.com

You could use a WOBO MIDI Looper as well - it is available on eBay and has a single loop controlled via MIDI.
There is also 4 loops version available as well.

I use 4 loops version and I control it using MIDI from my FC One footswitch via GSP2101.

Cheers,
Goddard

Graham Pearson pisze:
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I understand your problem.\ufffd The only solution I can recommend is to include a MIDI-controlled audio signal router/switcher in your setup.\ufffd An expensive example of one of these devices is the Voodoo Labs / DMC GCX.\ufffd These are one of the few that are still being manufactured and there are several currently being auctioned on eBay.\ufffd I use an older, discontinued, but just as effective Ibanez EPP-400 for duties such as this.\ufffd You can occasionally see these on eBay also.
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To solve your problem, you would insert\ufffdyour MIDI-controlled switcher in the GSP-2101's effect loop and, depending on the patch you are currently using, the switcher would either include or bypass your echo unit.\ufffd Of course, these switchers are capable of a lot more than this simple application, but it'll get the job done without having to alter the bowels of your GSP-2101.
\ufffd
Hope this helps.\ufffd Please let us know how you solve this problem.
Graham
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----- Original Message -----
From: d7x13
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: [gsp-2101] FX Loop

The problem I'm having is that I want the FX loop On/Summed/Bypass
option to control the SEND, not RETURN (as it behaves in all versions
of the 2101). Or, if that's not possible, I'd want so that it turns
on/off both, the return and the send.

Example: I have a high-feedback (90%) echo in the FX Loop. And I'm
going between two patches; we'll call them A and B.

Patch A = Dstrd sound; FX Loop Off
Patch B = Clean sound; FX Loop ON (echo)

Let's say I'm going to play a chorus using Patch A and switch to
Patch B for the next verse. Since the 2101 is set up in a way where
the FX SEND is ALWAYS on..... once I hit that switch, my distortion
will start echo'ing (getting delayed) - and therefore mess up the
sound of the verse.

Is there any kind of firmware upgrade (I already have v3.0.0.a) that
can alter what the On/Summed/Bypass option controls? If not, is it
possible to have it electronically/mechanically edited and if so, do
you happen to know any engineers who can pull this off?

Re: FX Loop

2007-11-04 by d7x13

--- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "goddardfil@..." <goddardfil@...> wrote:
>
> You could use a WOBO MIDI Looper as well - it is available on eBay and 
> has a single loop controlled via MIDI.
> There is also 4 loops version available as well.
> 
> I use 4 loops version and I control it using MIDI from my FC One 
> footswitch via GSP2101.
> 
> Cheers,
> Goddard
> 
> Graham Pearson pisze:
> >
> > I understand your problem.  The only solution I can recommend is to 
> > include a MIDI-controlled audio signal router/switcher in your
setup.  
> > An expensive example of one of these devices is the Voodoo Labs / DMC 
> > GCX.  These are one of the few that are still being manufactured and 
> > there are several currently being auctioned on eBay.  I use an older, 
> > discontinued, but just as effective Ibanez EPP-400 for duties such as 
> > this.  You can occasionally see these on eBay also.
> >  
> > To solve your problem, you would insert your MIDI-controlled switcher 
> > in the GSP-2101's effect loop and, depending on the patch you are 
> > currently using, the switcher would either include or bypass your
echo 
> > unit.  Of course, these switchers are capable of a lot more than this 
> > simple application, but it'll get the job done without having to
alter 
> > the bowels of your GSP-2101.
> >  
> > Hope this helps.  Please let us know how you solve this problem.
> > Graham
> >  
> >  
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* d7x13 <mailto:sickliberty@...>
> >     *To:* gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com <mailto:gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com>
> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:34 PM
> >     *Subject:* [gsp-2101] FX Loop
> >
> >     The problem I'm having is that I want the FX loop On/Summed/Bypass
> >     option to control the SEND, not RETURN (as it behaves in all
versions
> >     of the 2101). Or, if that's not possible, I'd want so that it
turns
> >     on/off both, the return and the send.
> >
> >     Example: I have a high-feedback (90%) echo in the FX Loop. And I'm
> >     going between two patches; we'll call them A and B.
> >
> >     Patch A = Dstrd sound; FX Loop Off
> >     Patch B = Clean sound; FX Loop ON (echo)
> >
> >     Let's say I'm going to play a chorus using Patch A and switch to
> >     Patch B for the next verse. Since the 2101 is set up in a way
where
> >     the FX SEND is ALWAYS on..... once I hit that switch, my
distortion
> >     will start echo'ing (getting delayed) - and therefore mess up the
> >     sound of the verse.
> >
> >     Is there any kind of firmware upgrade (I already have
v3.0.0.a) that
> >     can alter what the On/Summed/Bypass option controls? If not, is it
> >     possible to have it electronically/mechanically edited and if
so, do
> >     you happen to know any engineers who can pull this off?
> >
> >
>
Thank you both for your help. This is by far the best advice I've
heard. (contacted Digitech tech support... they're not even aware that
the SEND stays on and told me it doesn't after which I ran some tests
and confirmed that it does) I'll take you up on the MIDI-controlled
approach. I have another dilemma though... The other FX Processor I'm
hooking up to is Stereo and I'd want to retain its full sound. The
loop will consist of mainly delay effects so do either of you think it
is possible to have them trail when I'd turn the loop off? Basically,
the SEND of the loop would have to be muted, while the returns (in
stereo) would still be active.

Any ideas?

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